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I expect Hillary to win, but this is actually looking closer than expected right now.

It seems normal, if you see back at other contemporary elections all of them were won for a 1 digit difference.

For sure. Once Cali comes in for Clinton things will look less lopsided. Florida is a bit of a shock.

I'm pretty flabbergasted by the way this is unfolding right now...

Fuck me. This is unprecedented. I predict that Trump will win at this point...

I just woke up to this...

Not what I expected.

I think we're witnessing history. Shocking, raw, and perhaps painful history.

I hope things work out positively, somehow.

I predicted your post in a post on Facebook, pho!

LOL really curious how the dollar will perform against the euro now ... time to go shopping.

After all ... relax if you're not American. Obama hasn't changed the world and neither will Trump. Make America great again, by force

On a side note, the internet has finally shown it's true potential as a powerful desinformation media and an increasing threat to democracy.

I think the USD will be fine. The Pound Sterling survived Brexit, anyways, and that's the closest comparison we have.

WHAT!?

This was not what I was expecting waking up to when going to bed yesterday

Good luck America...

Believe me, most level headed Americans are shocked too. We'll survive and make the best of a bad situation, though.

Maybe the political establishment will front a more sane, intelligent, and reasonable candidate next election cycle after seeing what their current policies have wrought.

Of course, there's always a remote chance that Trump will do good for America...

To be fair GBP took a good hit that day and is on a slight downward slope ever scince.

ohaimark wrote: ↑I think the USD will be fine. The Pound Sterling survived Brexit, anyways, and that's the closest comparison we have.

Best visualization of what happened to the GBP:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pound-2016

Well damn. I was under the impression that it was fine. Thanks for the update.

Hopefully the dollar survives.

Wodan wrote: ↑Obama hasn't changed the world and neither will Trump.

That's right, although if house and senate are republican also...

I remember travelling to the US ~10 years ago and coming back with suitcases full of Apple stuff when the euro was suddenly 1.45$ and Apple prices were 1€ : 1$

So currently at 1:1.1$ you've still got a long fall ahead before reaching those times again.
And also remember that a weak dollar will actually work towards Trumps economical agenda (if you can call it that) because imports from dirty Mexicans and Germans get more expensive while blessing the rest of the world with divine 'Murican pride becomes more affordable.

BRING IT ON!!! I wand a pellet smoker SO BADLY and they are so ridiculously expensive here, with a cheap enough dollar I might finally be able to get one from the US. This baby will come on a pallet.

@seebart: Most scenarios I can think of will help German exports in the long run. That's all I care about, that's the reason we've only got ~20% far left/right wingers in our parliaments.

Wodan wrote: ↑I remember travelling to the US ~10 years ago and coming back with suitcases full of Apple stuff when the euro was suddenly 1.45$ and Apple prices were 1€ : 1$

Apple... Forget that. Then I'll need to get more F's, more Beamsprings and other oldschool keyboards like this...

Wodan wrote: ↑

ohaimark wrote: ↑I think the USD will be fine. The Pound Sterling survived Brexit, anyways, and that's the closest comparison we have.

Best visualization of what happened to the GBP:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pound-2016

This constant fucking fearmongering from you lefties is becoming laughable.

Canada's immigration website just crashed ...

Yep. Read about that a while back.

Trump is giving his speech now. It's pretty saccharine, but he's a good orator.

Time to buy some shitty Canadian blended whiskey and have a taste of the North before facing the future of my country.

His poor kid must be tired as fuck haha. He looks so uninterested and over it.

Well, I witnessed his live speech. Time to have a snort and sleep it off.

Goodnight, all.

adhoc wrote: ↑This constant fucking fearmongering from you lefties is becoming laughable.

I am sorry for you. You're at a pathetic point in your life when your own reality can only exist when "the media" is wrong and a bunch of "fearmongering lefties" ... That's exactly what I was talking about when I said that the internet has become a very powerful desinformation tool and helped some people live in their own reality, protected from the complex world around them and unpleasant news from all over the world. It's all "laughable" because you know better and like-minded people shared links in your facebook group that prove it.

For a start, try dropping the arrogant and insulting attitude and let us explore why things like currency exchange rates and companies reaction to it are "constant fucking fearmongering" and why it makes me a leftie to link this article illustrating how the GBP has performed since the Brexit vote to someone who hasn't been aware of that...

Wodan wrote: ↑try dropping the arrogant and insulting attitude

This is you, not me. Look who's calling names. But then again, expecting reason from people like you would be very naive from me indeed.

EDIT: Btw what Toblerone did does not "reflect UKs economy". They got greedy and the market will react to it accordingly. I have complete faith in this.

It is now 9.24 in the morning over here. I have been up all night and am really tired.
I saw the first seconds of Trump's speech. At the same time as he started talking the officially tally of electoral seats passed the threshold.
I felt like I had to turn off the set, so I did and walked away. Then I noticed that I was in the bathroom washing my hands ...
But what was I washing my hands for?
I guess it must have been because I felt dirty from having watched him.

Wodan wrote: ↑That's exactly what I was talking about when I said that the internet has become a very powerful desinformation tool and helped some people live in their own reality, protected from the complex world around them and unpleasant news from all over the world.

You are far from the first person to say that.

It's 3 a.m. and I can't sleep. I had to look at the results. The results were looking disconcerting before I went to sleep. I am literally scared and very sad right now. I fear because this gives so much power to those that hate, that rant their unfiltered thoughts before consideration, that seek division and violence before, I don't know, trying to work together and understand people. I thought my fellow citizens were wiser than this, but we are visceral animals before thoughtful humans. I am not sure where this will take our country, but we have a petulant, divisive child at the helm now, one that empowers so much of what I do not consider decent humanity, yet represents so much of what we are, at the most basic level. I have trouble envisioning a positive direction.

Congrats America, if we weren't already in the negative dystopia that I've only read about in novels, we sure as hell are there now. Please just be another Burlesconi, at the worst.

Fuck.

adhoc wrote: ↑ This is you, not me. Look who's calling names. But then again, expecting reason from people like you would be very naive from me indeed.

adhoc wrote: ↑ This constant fucking fearmongering from you lefties is becoming laughable.

Try harder, that's how you attacked me out of nothing. Expect me to always reply in the same tone that I am adressed in. I'm a great fan of political debates but calling me a "fucking fearmongering leftie" for linking a newspaper article to illustrate the recent performance of the GBP ...

adhoc wrote: ↑ EDIT: Btw what Toblerone did does not "reflect UKs economy". They got greedy and the market will react to it accordingly. I have complete faith in this.

There's an official statement from Toblerone confirming exactly that (warning, more disturbing facts):
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/08/toblerone ... s-6242469/

Somehow their costs have only increased in the UK while other countries still get the same Toblerone for the same price. Please tell me you believe Mondelez when they say:

A spokeswoman said said that although the exchange rate was ‘not favourable’, it wasn’t done ‘as a result of Brexit’.

However, the company has not said whether bars in the rest of Europe will be changed in the same way, and referred to the changes as affecting ‘our UK chocolate bars’.

This should be interesting, for a change... in a good way, I hope.