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Did I get a good deal?

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 04:45
by pingmaster
IBM Model F XT. 200$

....Also..... IBM PC 5150
And Monitor
And Printer
And Software
And Disks
And And Manuals.

I took it.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 04:51
by JP!
Sounds like a good deal, especially considering the price of shipping. Heck, look at the prices just the XT keyboards bring. Does the 5150 turn on? Also I would love to see some pictures whenever you have a chance.

Re: Did I get a good deal?

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 12:48
by pingmaster
1: Craigslist, so no shipping hassle!

2: Here are le pictures: http://i.imgur.com/ex62Bpu.jpg

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 13:32
by depletedvespene
Excellent deal.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 14:22
by JP!
Wow, very nice!

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 15:38
by andrewjoy
it was a crappy deal , i will help you cover your losses by paying you 150 USD for it so you only lost 50

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 16:02
by DustGod
Nice deal! Also, nice that you can pick it up; got a 5291 two days ago, and I was fearing that the shipping expenses would've kill it. Luckily I ended up paying 35€, which is quite reasonable for shipping it from Spain to Italy.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 16:10
by Clavius
DustGod wrote: Nice deal! Also, nice that you can pick it up; got a 5291 two days ago, and I was fearing that the shipping expenses would've kill it. Luckily I ended up paying 35€, which is quite reasonable for shipping it from Spain to Italy.
That's a pretty good deal too. What website do you check? I find that eBay rarely list items from Europe, which usually means I end up buying something from the US and having to stomach horrendous shipping costs.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 17:01
by DustGod
Clavius wrote: That's a pretty good deal too. What website do you check? I find that eBay rarely list items from Europe, which usually means I end up buying something from the US and having to stomach horrendous shipping costs.
Yes, European listings are significantly rarer. I found it on eBay. Gave 70€ for a 5291 terminal, the monitor and the matching bigfoot Model F (minus 3 keycaps).

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 04:30
by JP!
Although that monitor is not the original IBM one, I really like the amber color of the text. I bet that was an expensive kit in it's day. Also it is a really nice bonus that you have one with a working hard drive. You got a good one for sure.

Re: Did I get a good deal?

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 13:12
by pingmaster
Original owner said it was 6000$ paid over a 20 year loan.

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 13:20
by depletedvespene
Sounds about right. Computers were quite expensive back in the day, even the "home computers" of the time.

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 13:22
by depletedvespene
Perhaps this weekend I'll go to my basement, take out some of my COMPUTE! magazines from the mid-80s and scan/photograph some of the advertisements inside. When it comes to computers, it never ceases to be impressive to compare numbers (RAM, speed, disk sizes, price...).

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 14:46
by DustGod
depletedvespene wrote: Perhaps this weekend I'll go to my basement, take out some of my COMPUTE! magazines from the mid-80s and scan/photograph some of the advertisements inside. When it comes to computers, it never ceases to be impressive to compare numbers (RAM, speed, disk sizes, price...).
Yes please! :)

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 18:00
by Chyros
Depends. If you want just the F XT keyboard, not very good. If you like vintage computing, pretty excellent :D .

Man, those good old IBM PCs are just so awesome, IMO the absolute most interesting computer system of all time. For anyone who's interested, give the wikipedia article on it a go sometime, it's an absolute cracking read crammed with superlatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer . There was nothing about this thing or even IBM in general at that time that wasn't amazing!

Re: Did I get a good deal?

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 18:27
by pingmaster
Chyros wrote:Depends. If you want just the F XT keyboard, not very good. If you like vintage computing, pretty excellent :D .

Man, those good old IBM PCs are just so awesome, IMO the absolute most interesting computer system of all time. For anyone who's interested, give the wikipedia article on it a go sometime, it's an absolute cracking read crammed with superlatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer . There was nothing about this thing or even IBM in general at that time that wasn't amazing!
I got it for the WHOLE machine. The keyboard just happened to come along for the ride.
Awesome things about this machine no modern machine does:
1: power switch feels like its from a nuclear power plant.
2: hard drive geos whirr.
3: the bright light dot that occurs when turnng off the display
4: 16.8 millions colors, more like 1
5: Floppy disk goes wobbly!
6: plz enter time and date
7: BASIC PROGRAMMING
8: keyboard that weighs more than a "brick shithouse" so I tell people pick it up and they are super confused why its so heavy
9: dir /w
10:......
11:*insert herE*
.............
45061: Upgradable CPU!
45062: 125LBS OF DOT MATRIX

Yeah, the org. IBM PC is quite a machine alright!

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 18:53
by ideus
I consider the XT layout the more ergonomic option for those that want an ISO enter along with an ANSI US layout.

Re: Did I get a good deal?

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 19:07
by pingmaster
ideus wrote:I consider the XT layout the more ergonomic option for those that want an ISO enter along with an ANSI US layout.
True.