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Brand New Model F NorCal Meetup!

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 10:39
by Taeha Types
Ellipse, the guy behind the Brand New Model F project (https://modelfkeyboards.com) luckily happened to be in town this past weekend and was kind enough to hold a meetup for us customers/enthusiasts to play around with his latest samples. It was truly a great experience not only playing around with the boards that honestly exceeded my expectations, but also just getting to talk with Ellipse and seeing how much he cared about the project and his customers. The color matching of the keycaps was immaculate, the case felt amazing, and Ellipse definitely did not fail in his reverse engineering of the original boards and reviving them. He told us that the springs are just about finalized as well and that he hopes to start shipping before the end of the year!

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 13:37
by Chyros
That Battleship seems a bit out of place in that video :p .

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 16:08
by darkcruix
Chyros wrote: That Battleship seems a bit out of place in that video :p .
C'mon - family reunion with some DNA cloning going on here :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 17:00
by Chyros
darkcruix wrote:
Chyros wrote: That Battleship seems a bit out of place in that video :p .
C'mon - family reunion with some DNA cloning going on here :)
Well yeah, but Ellipse doesn't repro F122s xD .

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 18:04
by constexpr
Great vid Mr. Sleeves.
Chyros wrote: Well yeah, but Ellipse doesn't repro F122s xD .
I know you wish he would!

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 18:33
by Chyros
constexpr wrote: Great vid Mr. Sleeves.
Chyros wrote: Well yeah, but Ellipse doesn't repro F122s xD .
I know you wish he would!
Yes! And F107s! xD

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 18:46
by darkcruix
Chyros wrote: Yes! And F107s! xD
I knew you would say this :)
Yours is pretty nice. Sure, I would convert it to ANSI, but your restoration job was well done :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 19:51
by Taeha Types
Wish he'd repro F122's and others as well hehe :shock:

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:11
by green-squid
Awesome video. Is ellipse the boy in blue? Image

EDIT: crap, I meant the one with the black hair in the thumbnail. His shirt looked dark-blue!

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:24
by darkcruix
green-squid wrote: Awesome video. Is ellipse the boy in blue? Image

EDIT: crap, I meant the one with the black hair in the thumbnail. His shirt looked dark-blue!
That is him

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:35
by green-squid
darkcruix wrote:
green-squid wrote: Awesome video. Is ellipse the boy in blue? Image

EDIT: crap, I meant the one with the black hair in the thumbnail. His shirt looked dark-blue!
That is him
Nice. He's a handsome looking man (no homo). And the older person there looks to be the IBM veteran he was talking about.

Who were the other people that were there?

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:51
by depletedvespene
constexpr wrote: Great vid Mr. Sleeves.
Chyros wrote: Well yeah, but Ellipse doesn't repro F122s xD .
I know you wish he would!
Let's be frank here — all of us here want more repro sizes, other than just the F62 and F77. In no particular order: TKL, unsaver, F107, full-size and battleship (and leftnav and monitor as well, but that's probably just me). Should we run a poll or what? :mrgreen:

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:53
by green-squid
I think we're going to give ellipse a new job with all of these requests! ;)

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 20:55
by depletedvespene
And SOLBUS II, while we're at it (both sizes, of course).

Posted: 10 Jul 2018, 23:41
by Chyros
depletedvespene wrote:
constexpr wrote: Great vid Mr. Sleeves.
Chyros wrote: Well yeah, but Ellipse doesn't repro F122s xD .
I know you wish he would!
Let's be frank here — all of us here want more repro sizes, other than just the F62 and F77. In no particular order: TKL, unsaver, F107, full-size and battleship (and leftnav and monitor as well, but that's probably just me). Should we run a poll or what? :mrgreen:
Very true. And let's be honest; if there's one board that deserves it, it's the Model F. I think even a beamspring wouldn't satisfy quite as many people (due to the height).

Posted: 11 Jul 2018, 08:59
by darkcruix
Chyros wrote: Very true. And let's be honest; if there's one board that deserves it, it's the Model F. I think even a beamspring wouldn't satisfy quite as many people (due to the height).
Not only the height, I assume. I think $350 is already heavy and a beam spring with discrete switches, which are more complicated to build would be at a price range of $5 to produce (each). Think about 84 keys of that ... you would be above $400 alone with switches and not having any case, pcb, controller (or profit).

Posted: 11 Jul 2018, 17:21
by JP!
darkcruix wrote:
Chyros wrote: Very true. And let's be honest; if there's one board that deserves it, it's the Model F. I think even a beamspring wouldn't satisfy quite as many people (due to the height).
Not only the height, I assume. I think $350 is already heavy and a beam spring with discrete switches, which are more complicated to build would be at a price range of $5 to produce (each). Think about 84 keys of that ... you would be above $400 alone with switches and not having any case, pcb, controller (or profit).
I would think that the beam spring modules could be scaled down in size but they would not be inexpensive to produce. When you consider every component in the originals it's not hard to see why the beam springs and Model F's were so expensive in their day.

Posted: 11 Jul 2018, 17:28
by darkcruix
JP! wrote:
darkcruix wrote:
Chyros wrote: Very true. And let's be honest; if there's one board that deserves it, it's the Model F. I think even a beamspring wouldn't satisfy quite as many people (due to the height).
Not only the height, I assume. I think $350 is already heavy and a beam spring with discrete switches, which are more complicated to build would be at a price range of $5 to produce (each). Think about 84 keys of that ... you would be above $400 alone with switches and not having any case, pcb, controller (or profit).
I would think that the beam spring modules could be scaled down in size but they would not be inexpensive to produce. When you consider every component in the originals it's not hard to see why the beam springs and Model F's were so expensive in their day.
I would expect that a "Modern Beam Spring" would cost the customer $650, even if you would mass produce it with very low margin and some sacrifices. Can you imagine that your keyboard costs more than the average computer? Many of us would probably say "hell yeah", but the average buyer would turn away. Look at the Surface Go from Microsoft - it comes without keyboard.