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Alps Double Shots

Posted: 09 Aug 2020, 23:24
by Willy4876
Does anybody know of a standard extended keyboard layout which has Alps doubleshots? I have a couple boards which have Alps double shot boards (Leading Edge DC-2014 and the keyboard unit from a Toshiba T1600) and I really like them but I'd like to have a full-sized, preferably ANSI, board with them. They can be easily recognized by the square pattern on the bottom.
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Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 00:09
by Polecat
Willy4876 wrote: 09 Aug 2020, 23:24 Does anybody know of a standard extended keyboard layout which has Alps doubleshots? I have a couple boards which have Alps double shot boards (Leading Edge DC-2014 and the keyboard unit from a Toshiba T1600) and I really like them but I'd like to have a full-sized, preferably ANSI, board with them. They can be easily recognized by the square pattern on the bottom.
What about a Leading Edge DC-2214? <attached> I didn't realize these were Alps caps, but they look similar. The DC-3014 might also use the same caps, but I don't have one of those to compare.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 00:45
by hellothere
There are still a bunch of double-shot Alps keycap sets out there, if you have an ANSI layout.

If you're looking specifically for an Alps ANSI keyboard, that's easy: Dell AT101, but that doesn't have double-shots. IIRC, there are a couple rubber-dome keyboards that have double-shot keycaps and are Alps mount. I know those were mentioned on this website, but I don't remember where. I also don't remember if they were ANSI or ISO layout.

Hey, if anyone knows of a nice ISO keycap set for Alps, please ping me.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 02:16
by Willy4876
hellothere wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 00:45 There are still a bunch of double-shot Alps keycap sets out there, if you have an ANSI layout.

If you're looking specifically for an Alps ANSI keyboard, that's easy: Dell AT101, but that doesn't have double-shots. IIRC, there are a couple rubber-dome keyboards that have double-shot keycaps and are Alps mount. I know those were mentioned on this website, but I don't remember where. I also don't remember if they were ANSI or ISO layout.

Hey, if anyone knows of a nice ISO keycap set for Alps, please ping me.
I am aware of new sets like Tai-Hao's double shots and I even have a set on an AT-101w, but I am looking for the older Alps made ones ... or at least I believe that Alps made them. I have only seen them on boards where the PCB has the blue and white Alps Electric sticker (attached).
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Polecat wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 00:09
Willy4876 wrote: 09 Aug 2020, 23:24 Does anybody know of a standard extended keyboard layout which has Alps doubleshots? I have a couple boards which have Alps double shot boards (Leading Edge DC-2014 and the keyboard unit from a Toshiba T1600) and I really like them but I'd like to have a full-sized, preferably ANSI, board with them. They can be easily recognized by the square pattern on the bottom.
What about a Leading Edge DC-2214? <attached> I didn't realize these were Alps caps, but they look similar. The DC-3014 might also use the same caps, but I don't have one of those to compare.
The DC-2214 looks like exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. I'll keep an eye out for one. The 3014 looks pretty sweet too. Thanks!

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 04:08
by Jesseg
my old Datacomp DFK515AT came with Alps doubleshots

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 08:37
by mode1ace
I'd love to find a straight UK ISO board with alps doubleshots, but it'll never happen! I've seen a few european layout boards like the Bull AT102, just never qwerty ISO.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 01:12
by hellothere
Willy4876 wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 02:16The DC-2214 looks like exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. I'll keep an eye out for one. The 3014 looks pretty sweet too. Thanks!
Do note that everybody on this forum is also looking for those keyboards :D. Good luck!

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 01:19
by Willy4876
hellothere wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 01:12
Willy4876 wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 02:16The DC-2214 looks like exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. I'll keep an eye out for one. The 3014 looks pretty sweet too. Thanks!
Do note that everybody on this forum is also looking for those keyboards :D. Good luck!
True but at least now I know what to looks for. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 17:45
by ppCircle
hellothere wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 00:45 If you're looking specifically for an Alps ANSI keyboard, that's easy: Dell AT101, but that doesn't have double-shots.
First models (old logo) has alps doubleshots, even with color legends.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 17:48
by ppCircle
Also looks like this dell 103 is using doubleshots made by alps, maybe there is also ansi version with them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULd95hM_JZQ

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 21:58
by hellothere
ppCircle wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:45
hellothere wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 00:45 If you're looking specifically for an Alps ANSI keyboard, that's easy: Dell AT101, but that doesn't have double-shots.
First models (old logo) has alps doubleshots, even with color legends.
Those were still called AT101? I sit corrected, then.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 23:04
by mcmaxmcmc
ppCircle wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:48 Also looks like this dell 103 is using doubleshots made by alps, maybe there is also ansi version with them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULd95hM_JZQ
Here's the description, Google translated to English:
DELL's ALPS Black switch adopted 106 Japanese mechanical keyboard "AT103 (47444)".
Although the production has been changed from ALPS to Silitek, even if it decays, Bigfoot, the weight of the main body and its stability are not comparable to the cheap keyboard now.
I changed the switch from ALPS Black to ALPS Green.
Keytop Replaced with the two-color keytop of the AX keyboard.
The AX platform is the platform the Dell AT101, the SGIs, and many other Bigfoot boards are based in. Of course, there are many variants of Japanese boards too. They are indeed Alps Electric Doubleshots.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 11 Aug 2020, 23:05
by mcmaxmcmc
Willy4876 wrote: 09 Aug 2020, 23:24 Does anybody know of a standard extended keyboard layout which has Alps doubleshots? I have a couple boards which have Alps double shot boards (Leading Edge DC-2014 and the keyboard unit from a Toshiba T1600) and I really like them but I'd like to have a full-sized, preferably ANSI, board with them. They can be easily recognized by the square pattern on the bottom.

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Another place you can find these Alps Electric doubleshots are in Forward Electronics boards, mainly (and I believe only) the FDA-102A. They are quite rare, though.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 12 Aug 2020, 00:17
by Willy4876
ppCircle wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:48 Also looks like this dell 103 is using doubleshots made by alps, maybe there is also ansi version with them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULd95hM_JZQ
I hadn't realized that AT-10Xs ever came with Alps doubleshots.

Re: Alps Double Shots

Posted: 16 Aug 2020, 20:37
by Polecat
I just dug out the original caps from my Multitech/Acer KB-101A and I believe these might be Alps Electric also. But be careful, as not all of these keyboards came with double shot caps.

The caps from my Datacomp DFK-777 look like they're from the same manufacturer, but that's not an ANSI 101 layout.