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Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:03
by nathanak21
I am planning on getting one of the compaq MX 11800. I will probably mod and paint it. Is this a good keyboard for $35?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:13
by Daniel Beaver
Yes, it is. Go for it.

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:17
by nathanak21
what makes keyboards better than others? because I can mod this for different switches if I want. If I end up doing that then this may be my first and last mech keyboard

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:21
by webwit
nathanak21 wrote:If I end up doing that then this may be my first and last mech keyboard
Next year...

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Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:22
by thegunner100
Is that your IBM collection?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:25
by fossala
No it's HaaTa's If I remember.

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:26
by webwit
Not mine...
http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8 ... t2591.html

My Model M collection is like this:
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Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:28
by thebeargentile
webwit wrote:
nathanak21 wrote:If I end up doing that then this may be my first and last mech keyboard
Next year...


Exactly. I bought my "first and last mechanical keyboard", a WASD, a few months ago, and have since picked up a Filco, an 87U, and am ordering a Kinesis Advantage for work. As a typing enhancement, they're awesome, but God help you if it turns into a hobby. Like Pringles, once you pop, the fun don't stop!

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:49
by codehead
Yes, my Keyboard Love Story describes this "road to nowhere" pretty much... Each of us are on different paths but going along the same road...

My path is about the pursuit for performance, not about collecting. But the end result is quite the same :D

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:50
by nathanak21
Ok I gotcha. I guess what I meant to say is will this be a good keyboard to put alot of work and time into?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:58
by modulor
My first cherry was a G80-11900, and based on my experience I'd say it's a good choice.

Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 20:06
by nathanak21
modulor wrote:My first cherry was a G80-11900, and based on my experience I'd say it's a good choice.
Are you saying to buy the compaq? Its made by cherry right?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 20:12
by Findecanor
It is made by Cherry, yes. It is a Cherry G80-11800 in a slightly different hue (all of them?) with the Compaq logo on it.
However, do you like the layout and look of the keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 20:33
by modulor
Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's essentially the same board, just with a track pad instead of a track ball. Cherry is the manufacturer of the Compaq board so it's the same quality, and being that the switches are PCB mounted, it's easy to mod them.

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 20:38
by IvanIvanovich
11800 is ok, but the layout is a little odd. If you are not in a hurry there are often better model of g80 for similar price on ebay. Just need to keep the search often and you will get one. I would try and go for something like an 1800 or 3000 personally for layout reasons, also keep your eye for the letters after then number, like 3000H**/S** would be better to get if possible as the keycap is better than the L models.

Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 21:33
by nathanak21
modulor wrote:Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's essentially the same board, just with a track pad instead of a track ball. Cherry is the manufacturer of the Compaq board so it's the same quality, and being that the switches are PCB mounted, it's easy to mod them.

So the cherry branded board is easier to mod? And I do kinda like the layout. Im more of a gamer than a typer. I like how it is short.

Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 21:37
by nathanak21
Are POS keyboards compatible with modern pcs?

Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 21:38
by nathanak21
Is the MX8100 POS Keyboard a good choice? I like how it looks and if I can bind the pos keys then it would be great.

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:02
by nathanak21
and what are mx gold crosspoint key switches? never heard of them and only saw something on geekhack

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:10
by ripster
Yeah, that was this:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?1564 ... -Contacts/

It's "contacts" if you want to get technical.

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:16
by nathanak21
so what switches does that one use?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:37
by modulor
nathanak21 wrote:
modulor wrote:Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's essentially the same board, just with a track pad instead of a track ball. Cherry is the manufacturer of the Compaq board so it's the same quality, and being that the switches are PCB mounted, it's easy to mod them.

So the cherry branded board is easier to mod? And I do kinda like the layout. Im more of a gamer than a typer. I like how it is short.
Both are made by Cherry, so they are of the same quality and build. The size and layout are exactly the same, with the exception that the 11800 doesn't have Windows keys and has 1.5 unit modifier keys instead. The 11900 model has a touchpad in place of the trackball that's on the 11800, and the 11900 has linear mx black switches, while the 11800 has tactile mx brown switches. While switch preference is highly debatable, I'd say for gaming the 11800 would be good because it doesn't have Windows keys.

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-11900
http://deskthority.net/wiki/G80-11800

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:44
by Kurk
nathanak21 wrote:So the cherry branded board is easier to mod? And I do kinda like the layout. Im more of a gamer than a typer. I like how it is short.
Like modulor said.
And if you're a FPS gamer then these boards might not be the right thing for you. They don't have
NKRO but you they do register 3 keys of the TabQWERASDFZXCV cluster + modifier simultaneously.

However, both keyboards are perfect for editing posts and thus preventing thread cluttering ;)

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:51
by Charlie_Brown_MX
Kurrk wrote:However, both keyboards are perfect for editing posts and thus preventing thread cluttering ;)
Do they help prevent starting multiple threads asking the same question?

1. http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/i-j ... t3302.html
2. http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/ple ... t3271.html

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 23:02
by nathanak21
like I said in that thread, sorry, im new here, im only 13, and its been a rough couple days for me

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 23:21
by phetto
Thats a really nice keyboard! Way better than Razer Blackwidow, it used to be a 13 year olds choice.

Nice that you have some taste in boards!

Is this a good first keyboard?

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 23:25
by nathanak21
Yea. I like to read up and know my choices. :)

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 23:29
by nathanak21
I went ahead and jumped on a deal for a Cherry MX8100 / G80-8963LUBUS. It uses mx brown and has a lot of keys to macro. Thank you guys for all your input.

Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 03:26
by nathanak21
What do you guys think?

Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 03:33
by IvanIvanovich
I've had several of those, or the 8113 which is the same thing. They are a pretty good board. I prefer the 3190/8200 though as I do not like the touchpads. Now you just need to get some different stem and spring so you can try all the MX for cheap and decide which you want to go with.