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So I just got a BlackWidow to try out Blue Cherries...
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 22:20
by Moneyless
...and now there's a $90 hole in my wallet ($79.99 plus 13% tax... Hate taxes).
On the other hand, I think I like the clickiness of the blues, but some keys seem to feel slightly harder to press than others. Not sure if this is an issue with the BlackWidow or if I'm just crazy (or not used to them yet) or what, but it feels a little weird to be completely honest. Maybe my fingers have simply been babied by my Filco Tenkeyless' Browns for too long.
Another thing is that the shiny plastic is really annoying.
Anyway I think I like Cherry Blues, I was thinking of getting a Choc Mini or a KBC Poker... Might get them with blues now; not sure.
The "bad 80's sci-fi movie" font is also sorta meh, but what can you do.
The BlackWidow seems pretty well made and is actually fairly heavy, but my Filco Tenkeyless is definitely better on the build quality front.
P.S. Sorry for the craptacular cellphone pics.
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 22:52
by Zandara
This is a common issue for BlackWidow which is uneven clicky switches.
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 23:01
by Moneyless
Zandara wrote:This is a common issue for BlackWidow which is uneven clicky switches.
Ah, that sucks. Guess you get what you pay for.
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 23:09
by JBert
So much for Razer cherry-picking every switch.
Cons of this keyboard:
More of the same marketing bullshit
Although some keys might not be greased properly... but Razer is to be blamed anyhow.
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 23:40
by Moth
You should test the keys using the
ripOmeter to see if some really do require more force. My guess is that it's just you feeling paranoid.
Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 23:45
by webwit
The ripometer is not accurate enough for the expected 5 - 10g variations, ie it will give the same weight for switches of 50.1g and 55g but a different for 55.1g. Together with stacking & balancing issues over the center of the key it is at least 10g insignificant.
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 03:15
by Moneyless
Moth wrote:You should test the keys using the
ripOmeter to see if some really do require more force. My guess is that it's just you feeling paranoid.
I wonder if Canadian nickels weigh the same as US nickels. I have some American change in a box somewhere, but I don't have that many US nickels...
Since the store I bought it from locally has a 14 day return policy I'm thinking what I'll do is use it throughout the week to get some more time with the Cherry Blues and see if they're really "for me," while making sure to keep it clean and keep the plastic cover over it when I'm not using it so that when I try and return it it will look as if it wasn't even used.
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 03:21
by webwit
I found the MX Blues to be a very consistent switch when it comes to required activation force.
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ESC/ATTN J F5 4 E B ARRLEFT Average
IBM Mini 87 73.65 66.00 71.30 73.25 72.15 72.45 76.50 72g
IBM Mini 07 72.30 68.95 71.65 71.60 71.60 71.60 69.70 71g
IBM F AT 65.70 64.30 65.45 66.20 60.30 64.80 60.65 64g
IBM 3278 42.20 46.60 54.00 53.95 48.25 56.25 41.00 49g
IBM 42H 99 65.90 74.70 66.00 72.20 72.50 69.25 69.80 70g
IBM M13 UniC 60.40 60.30 65.45 64.15 59.45 65.65 62.95 63g
IBM 5576-003 67.30 65.80 67.40 67.15 67.30 65.20 65.45 67g
Filco 87MC 48.00 47.45 48.00 47.90 48.05 47.80 47.95 48g <---
Filco 87M 44.75 41.40 41.85 45.10 43.00 42.90 41.75 43g
HHKB Pro II 39.65 48.75 45.40 44.95 50.75 49.75 48.60 47g
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 19:20
by celery
If it's the switches itself that are uneven, the issue might go away after some use.
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 19:51
by javifast
Nice keyboard Moneyless, but I prefer your Filco.
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 22:17
by Fuel
I had no idea the BlackWidow was that shiny O_o
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 23:22
by daedalus
Oddly enough, these weight tests never show up the peak force of the Cherry switch. Not sure why.
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 00:17
by Crazy9000
JBert wrote:So much for Razer cherry-picking every switch.
Cons of this keyboard:
More of the same marketing bullshit
Although some keys might not be greased properly... but Razer is to be blamed anyhow.
My theory is they cherry pick the ones that still work from the reject pile.
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 05:19
by 002
It probably means that they 'picked cherry switches' for their board.
Did they cherry pick cherry switches?
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 05:25
by Minskleip
002 wrote:It probably means that they 'picked cherry switches' for their board.
Did they cherry pick cherry switches?
That's what their marketing division implied..
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 09:16
by caprolactone
i never liked the look for razer keyboards, this makes me stray from it further, at least the price is cheaper than other alternatives.
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 09:21
by 002
OT here but where did you get that little AK-47?
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 09:40
by Yomi39
I thinnk now most of gamers will know what's a mechanical keyboard thanks to razer.
Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 23:27
by Moneyless
Fuel wrote:I had no idea the BlackWidow was that shiny O_o
The pics do not do it justice, it is even shinier in person.
002 wrote:OT here but where did you get that little AK-47?
It came with a tigerstripe camo outfit for a "GI Joe for grownups" type dude years ago.
Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 03:42
by MrBlue
I got this free from Razer and now I'm in love with this keyboard.
Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 17:22
by Parabellum
Fuel wrote:I had no idea the BlackWidow was that shiny O_o
Shiny plastic and blue leds - the pure definition of a razer keyboard!