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PLU ML87 any good?
Posted: 29 May 2011, 17:33
by zakazak
Hi, i wonder if the PLU ML87 are any good? Thought about buying the tenkeyless mx brown one which is quite cheap.
Couldnt find a review :/
Thanks
Posted: 29 May 2011, 21:10
by appie747
Posted: 29 May 2011, 22:00
by zakazak
thanks.. if i got it right it doesnt support 6 keys at the same time? However , it supports enough keys at the same time to be fine for gaming?
Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 14:19
by intealls
Just got mine, and I'm very pleased with it. It feels really sturdy, and the caps aren't as thin as I expected them to be. I got the white one, will write a review in a while.
Posted: 06 Jul 2011, 22:58
by redpill
zakazak wrote:thanks.. if i got it right it doesnt support 6 keys at the same time? However , it supports enough keys at the same time to be fine for gaming?
I believe they are 2KRO, which means some 3 key combinations will fail. If the game you are playing requires those three keys to be pressed at once, you are SOL. I had that problem with of my favorite games with my old rubber dome, it was in fact what wound up driving me back to mechanicals for the first time in a couple decades.
Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 22:19
by dux
In fact I did reach 7KRO just for fun but very specific, including all the modifiers, Shift and ASDF I think. In fact overall it is a 2KRO but a with some gaming specific more more-than-2KRO. I'm not a gamer, so I don't know which combinations I should test.
Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 22:36
by dux
I too am pleased with the overall quality. The POM keycaps are lasered (i have a black one). The keys even look like coated in some way. I think that because they come shiny and you can see the border of that shininess on some keys, so I believe those are small imperfection of the sprayed coating. But I see those imperfections only on special angles. Overall the shininess/coating makes very nice, smooth almost oily look and feel. To bad I needed the German layout and changed them for some Cherries.
In difference to the Ducky it is I think better build, in spite of the price, because the whole top plastic covering is out of one piece of plastic, like Filco or Leopold. Plate mounted, almost 1 kg weight. The mediakeys are useful and discrete.
My only real problem is that stupid lasered Spacebar: thick bigass letters "POM KEYCAP-PLU.CN" on the front side. The keycaps sit extremely stiff so be very careful changing them.
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 05:34
by ripster
I doubt the keys are coated. The spacebar isn't compatible with Filco, Cherry, Leopold or anybody else AFAIK. That's a bummer especially if you wanted to swap in KBC PBT keys.
And try testing WDE or WAQ for the NKRO test.
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 10:14
by dux
ripster wrote:
And try testing WDE or WAQ for the NKRO test.
WDE or WAQ does not work. But WASDF, Left, Down, Right and Ctrl on the same time does.
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 10:41
by dux
ripster wrote:I doubt the keys are coated.
You can see the difference of the shininess in the on the top 2 milimeters of the EnterKey, of the ShiftKey and the |\ Key. I think it is a defect of the sprayed coating.
- Plu coating??
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Interestingly those three keys dos not match the color of the others. Interestingly my Cherries match the Spacebar, the Alt / Ctrl row of the Plu. But the difference in the real life is almost not noticable, my webcam is exaggerating.
Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 10:46
by dux
ripster wrote: The spacebar isn't compatible with Filco, Cherry, Leopold or anybody else AFAIK. That's a bummer especially if you wanted to swap in KBC PBT keys.
Not sure about that:
- POM plu Spacebar
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There is a group buy on GH right now with plu keyset
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?1981 ... h-freebies, so you can ask them if the spacebar fits.
Posted: 04 Aug 2011, 23:42
by dux
The PCB seems to be an exact copy of the Filco layout.
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Replacement PCB and steel plate (including ISO, Cherry keys and fully programmable) will (hopefully) be made available by some guys on
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?2018 ... rest-check