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Something a bit special this week hope you enjoy!

Wait, if KBtalKing run Vortex, then why has KBtalKing disintegrated?

I wonder how readily Gateron could manufacture these directly.

Chyros,

Just saw your review and I was definitely surprised on what you said in 7.18 of the video.

The best MECH switch you have ever tried....? What the.......

Here I was under the impression that you loved all that was made years or decades ago and now we have you praising modern day switches. You have indeed surprised me with your video yet it has now inspired me to get some of these switches to try out.

Elrick wrote: Chyros,

Just saw your review and I was definitely surprised on what you said in 7.20 of the video.

The best MECH switch you have ever tried....? What the.......

Here I was under the impression that you loved all that was made years or decades ago and now we have you praising modern day switches. You have indeed surprised me with your video yet it has now inspired me to get some of these switches to try out.

He said best MX switches that he has ever tried, not best mech switches I'm pretty sure his favourites are either beam springs (overrated imo) and blue alps

wobbled wrote: He said best MX switches that he has ever tried, not best mech switches I'm pretty sure his favourites are either beam springs (overrated imo) and blue alps

Thank you wobbled for clearing that up because it had me worried about this whole keyboard dilemma of acquiring older keyboards if there is a "better" switch being made today and sold in any style of keyboard (60, 80 or 104 key layouts).

Elrick wrote:

wobbled wrote: He said best MX switches that he has ever tried, not best mech switches I'm pretty sure his favourites are either beam springs (overrated imo) and blue alps

Thank you wobbled for clearing that up because it had me worried about this whole keyboard dilemma of acquiring older keyboards if there is a "better" switch being made today and sold in any style of keyboard (60, 80 or 104 key layouts).

No worries bud, tbh I don't think any modern switches will be able to come close to the older switches, they put a lot more money in to their keyboards back then and everything was more expensive than it is now. Then again it all comes down to personal preference, at least the best switches are still being made e,g, Unicomp buckling springs, matias alps, and topre!

Very interesting review, I was pretty surprised by the difference in sound between the loose MX Blue and Zealiostotle switches.

Wonder how they compare to Outemu Blues, which also seem to have a louder and more defined click relative to their MX equivalent.

wobbled wrote:

Elrick wrote:

wobbled wrote: He said best MX switches that he has ever tried, not best mech switches I'm pretty sure his favourites are either beam springs (overrated imo) and blue alps

Thank you wobbled for clearing that up because it had me worried about this whole keyboard dilemma of acquiring older keyboards if there is a "better" switch being made today and sold in any style of keyboard (60, 80 or 104 key layouts).

No worries bud, tbh I don't think any modern switches will be able to come close to the older switches, they put a lot more money in to their keyboards back then and everything was more expensive than it is now. Then again it all comes down to personal preference, at least the best switches are still being made e,g, Unicomp buckling springs, matias alps, and topre!

Haha, these are good switches, sure, but NO WAY are they the best switches I've ever tried :p . Particularly in the clicky department, there's so many great switches out there.

Well one thing this video gets right is document how Gateron housings sound like the brittle piece of shit they are.

Only Gateron, or anything with a transparent shell? I noticed that the switches with clear tops are much harder to get apart as the plastic is that much stiffer. I assume your observations relate in part to the different material(s) needed to get clear shells. In Cherry's case, though, it bends rather than snaps.

The worst plastic choice was whatever British Telecom phonecards were made out of in the 80s — confused users used to snap them like they would used credit cards, and they would shatter and send jagged pieces of plastic flying in all directions. The later ones used a plastic that would simply fold and eventually sever through fatigue. I don't know if this plastic choice was specific to the UK factory, or to all Landis & Gyr/Sodeco cards throughout Europe.

(The cards had no reason to be snapped — they stored the pre-paid charge as a hologram that was destroyed piece by piece with a laser. The amount of credit was set by the length of the holographic strip.)

What I saw:
Meme-video covering a meme-keyboard with meme-switches. Some of my least well spent time in a while.

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: Only Gateron, or anything with a transparent shell? I noticed that the switches with clear tops are much harder to get apart as the plastic is that much stiffer. I assume your observations relate in part to the different material(s) needed to get clear shells. In Cherry's case, though, it bends rather than snaps.

Could be. Haven't laid hands on any non-Gateron clear housings. Or all the other knock offs out there.
Only noticed that my Cherry switches sound much better even with the same spring and slider. Not as high pitched and rattly.

Would be interesting to see how the Cherry RGB housing compares to that.

Clear housings are made of different material than black ones (polycarbonate? vs pom).

I guess pom sounds better and is less brittle, but is usually scratchier.

And then there are gaterons with "milky" housings as well

gjooro wrote: Clear housings are made of different material than black ones (polycarbonate? vs pom).

I guess pom sounds better and is less brittle, but is usually scratchier.

And then there are gaterons with "milky" housings as well

POM is actually a plastic used to reduce friction as it's extraordinarily slippery. Even POM keycaps feel oily, it's a very unique feel. Sliders are often made out of POM, from what I've understood.

It was sometimes mentioned that cherry switches are made of pom, but I'm not sure if it was only the sliders, or the housing as well.

POM is slippery, often called self lubricating plastic, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the surface of the material is made smooth, while I have a feeling that the material they use on clear housings is very smooth, glass like and that it's that material that contributes to the smoothness.

Maybe if someone could do some keyboard science and put one of those scratchy sliders from cherry in another housing to test out Maybe I am completely wrong though

Khers wrote: What I saw:
Meme-video covering a meme-keyboard with meme-switches. Some of my least well spent time in a while.

I can requests for modern keyboards and switches several times a day. Can't please everyone I guess. Thanks for the constructive criticism though.

Chyros wrote: Can't please everyone I guess.

Oh, and here I was thinking you'd immediately do a review of a cheap-ass rubber dome MarkVision keyboard so I wouldn't have to test my NOS unit myself. I am NOT pleased.

depletedvespene wrote:

Chyros wrote: Can't please everyone I guess.

Oh, and here I was thinking you'd immediately do a review of a cheap-ass rubber dome MarkVision keyboard so I wouldn't have to test my NOS unit myself. I am NOT pleased.

Heheheh xD .


Well, actually....

gjooro wrote: It was sometimes mentioned that cherry switches...

...are made of porn.
I had to re-read that.

Knuffing porn! and…

gjooro wrote: PORN is slippery, often called self lubricating

Necromanx nice guy really like mykeyboard.eu.. already directed lots of friends to the shop..