deskthority

What do you like to wait for in the next round? 1: NES Style (red on grey-shades|t!ing) 2: Micro Cassette [Epson PX-8] (brown/beige/orange/red|t!ng) 3: Ti-style (BBQ, BFP, GSM, GB|Ail) 4: Ti-style2 (BBQ, BED, GSM|Ail) 5: Strawberries and Cream (RAS, WW, WAR|Ail) 6: Mountain View (BFO,BX,GX,RN|stuplarosa) 7: hp (too many colors to write them down|mtl) 8: Midnight (BED, BFR, GSM, RDE|Ail) 9: Goblins (YCC on VBQ, VAV, VF|Ail) 10: More Blue Black (BED, NN, GSM|Ail)
11: Cream&Beige (cream,beige|zslane) 12: Skull Squadron (yellow row 1 keys, Round 5/6 supplement|zslane) 13: Shoe Girl Scheme (yellow,beige,brown,red|Kbdfr) 14: Orange/Cream (WCK,NN,OAS|caligo) 15: Zeigen (OAS/lightgrey, black/white|last edited by Seebart) 16: TA Royal (green on white: VAT, VCM, GLK|lolpes) 17: hp9830A (darkbrown on cream, lightyellow, yellow, cream/darkbrown|Incognito) 18: hp9830A carbonesque (TBN, YCB on WBO, GE, YL, YCF|Ail) 19: Darker Modifiers (too many colors|stuplarosa) 20: Hell Of Kitten (all shades of pink!|kbdfr) 21: Mtl's 3 most favorite color schemes (dark color mix with green and what not|mtl) 22: Handarbeit (out of competition|Sayso) 23: Navy Blue (BFQ, BFR, BBI|ach) 24: Wursteln mit Senf (OBC/YG/WA|mecano) 25: Acorn (poison green function keys|andrewjoy) 26: Oranje! (OAS and WCK/GDC|7bit) 27: Not enough blue (WCK and BFP|7bit) 28: Yellow on Black (YY/NN|7bit) 29: Yellow Hell (YY/NN|7bit) 30: Codemaster Lite (less creamy than Cream/Grey|zslane) 31: Codemaster Dark (less creamy than Cream/Grey|zslane) 32: Cream/Grey RGB (WCK, GDC, RA, VCS, BFP|7bit) 33: Grey/Cream RGB (WCK, GDC, RA, VCS, BFP|7bit)

My vote is for the write-in candidate: PBT.

Btw royal is green on light grey with light grey on light green mods :p SP colors are:

VAT ; VCM ; GLK

Go Go Epson PX-8 !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epson_PX-8_Geneva

A laptop one year older than me

Mind the CTRL <=> CAPS LOCK switch and the integrated Numpad!

Muirium wrote: ↑My vote is for the write-in candidate: PBT.

This ^

That list

We should conspire to all vote on all 33 options. Stress test 7bot.

Sayso wrote: ↑That list

I should have known better
@7bit great job on extracting colors

I'd like APL characters this time round, pretty please!

The APL union layout would be in keeping with a retro feel and would be eminently usable by me for real APL programming, not just looking pretty!



Or the VAX/VMS APL layout http://lakesdev.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/ ... board.html:



Or more contemporary the Dyalog APL layout:

Sexy...

Exactly! Sexy for you - useful and sexy for me!

I try front printing (if affordable) this time, so might be possible to do real APL this time.


Which is your preferred APL layout, BTW?

edit:
They are all different from the Space Cadet layout.


This would mean at least 33 new legends ($1650) plus the front printing ($$?).

There are two main variants of APL in general purpose use at the moment: IBM APL/2 and Dyalog APL. They have a different key layout. Given that the Dyalog variant has an education programme, non-commercial licenses and provide a free version for the Raspberry Pi I'd very heavily slant towards that layout being the most practical layout.

For a completely retro version then the Union layout (top image in my previous post) was the traditional layout used by the original implementations of APL.

For the gory details of Dyalog's layouts: https://dfns.dyalog.com/n_keyboards.htm

and for the full effect note in the above page: 'It may be attractive to place box-drawing characters on the numeric keypad'

APL is such a good idea, we had it two years ago. Go on go on GO ON!

ALP is awesome but come on give them black on green Function keys more of a chance

geez too many options

Did the whole voting with new accounts situation get resolved? If not, no need for suspicion of what will soon be 50+ votes for Hell of Kitten, it must be what the people want.

Currently leading are:

2: Micro Cassette [Epson PX-8] (brown/beige/orange/red|t!ng) 11: Cream&Beige (cream,beige|zslane) 32: Cream/Grey RGB (WCK, GDC, RA, VCS, BFP|7bit) 33: Grey/Cream RGB (WCK, GDC, RA, VCS, BFP|7bit) 12: Skull Squadron (yellow row 1 keys, Round 5/6 supplement|zslane) 5: Strawberries and Cream (RAS, WW, WAR|Ail) 15: Zeigen (OAS/lightgrey, black/white|last edited by Seebart) 31: Codemaster Dark (less creamy than Cream/Grey|zslane)

Creme&beige looks promising

Codemaster dark looks amazing

I'm still hoping for PBT clones of IBM Selectric and/or beam spring high-profile spherical keys, with an MX mount. Dye sublimated would be good. Double shot would be great.

If you make such a key color becomes almost secondary.

Failing that - how about something like SA Dolch?

I've asked SP about Alps sphericals and they told me they don't want to.


Maybe later ...


I think we should find some other manufacturer. The tools SP has made for my group buys (and pleasantly uses for all subsequent buys (OK, why not ) and commercial productions ( ) ) where not that expansive.

All we need to find, is a manufacturer who is willing to produce what we want.

BTW:
Wasn't there someone in China doing Cherry keycap clones?

IBM Spherical .

IT WILL HAPPEN!

All we need are 1, 1.25. 1.5 and 1.75 units, plus 1 or 2 space bars (7 and 8 or whatever units).


For a start, 1u and the 7 units space bar are enough!

Find me the manufacturer that does it (SP sadly not) and it will happen (same for Alps)!

I don't think 7bit will ever do a Dolch SA. For one thing, his Honeywell "graphite" colorway is probably close enough for his tastes. Plus, I don't know if anyone other than me and a few others love Dolch enough to want it in yet another profile. I think a Dolch SA set needs to be its own group buy, run by someone else (I think it would be an excellent candidate for PMK).

7bit, what about Matt's beamspring cap project? Could that include Alps?

This interest check looks like the one for Round 4. Will it lead to multiple colourways in Round 7 I wonder?

For what it's worth (i.e. nothing): (NN, TEA, YCF, VCS, RA, RCJ, BBJ)

Alphanum TEA on NN
Mods YCF on NN
Shift VCS on NN
Control RA on NN
Alt RCJ on NN
Win and Caps BBJ on NN

I think voters should be aware that my cream/biege suggestions (including the Codemasters) will really only look good on biege/brown keyboard cases, which nobody makes anymore. I honestly believe that the primary reason these colorways look good in my renders is because I deliberately created biege/bronze colored cases to show them off. Those colorways won't look nearly as good on white or black keyboards, at least IMO.

Exactly. Quit cheating and render them on the keyboards that buyers are more likely to have. Vile brand monstrosities with leaking backlights!

zslane wrote: ↑I don't think 7bit will ever do a Dolch SA. For one thing, his Honeywell "graphite" colorway is probably close enough for his tastes. Plus, I don't know if anyone other than me and a few others love Dolch enough to want it in yet another profile. I think a Dolch SA set needs to be its own group buy, run by someone else (I think it would be an excellent candidate for PMK).

There used to be a Dolch spherical group buy. I don't have a link to it, but I got some keys in the grab bags that prove it!

facetsesame wrote: ↑7bit, what about Matt's beamspring cap project? Could that include Alps?

We don't need beamspring caps, we need buckling spring caps (for those model F keyboards with iron cases)!

facetsesame wrote: ↑This interest check looks like the one for Round 4. Will it lead to multiple colourways in Round 7 I wonder?

No, it will only be one colorway.

Code master pls!!!!!!

Otherwise retro cassette thing is nice as well. Agreed with Zslane about the cream/beige/red themes.

zslane wrote: ↑I think voters should be aware that my cream/biege suggestions (including the Codemasters) will really only look good on biege/brown keyboard cases, which nobody makes anymore. I honestly believe that the primary reason these colorways look good in my renders is because I deliberately created biege/bronze colored cases to show them off. Those colorways won't look nearly as good on white or black keyboards, at least IMO.

..so Round8 is likely to be cream\beige cases