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The native state of spare part beam spring modules
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 08:51
by Parak
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Got a few packaged exactly like this - rubber banded, individually in small plastic baggies, stapled closed. As per the person I got these from, these are NIB(ag), and how they were originally packaged as a replacement part.
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 09:04
by Chyros
Oh wow, someone's finally tracked some of these down. I knew they existed, but I had never seen them before. Do you know how ample this stock is?
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 14:42
by Engicoder
I am amazed that the rubber bands have survived all that time.
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 14:44
by JP!
Nice find.
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 20:50
by Parak
Chyros wrote: Oh wow, someone's finally tracked some of these down. I knew they existed, but I had never seen them before. Do you know how ample this stock is?
There were about a keyboard's worth, and I got them all to serve as potential replacements in a refurbishment project. Definitely wasn't cheap.
Engicoder wrote: I am amazed that the rubber bands have survived all that time.
A lot of them didn't
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 23:36
by orihalcon
I don’t think I’ve seen o rings that have gone bad on a beamspring actually. Even those from the infamous rust master I believe all still had good o rings. I believe I saw these listed on eBay a while ago as I am guessing that is where they came from. If you look closely at them, you will see that the stems don’t have the angle on them if they are that batch, so your key angles will be off if you mix them in with originals which are angled. Non angled ones were only for data station keyboards as far as I know. Definitely cool either way!
Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 07:05
by Parak
Graphs courtesy of HaaTa:
Generic beam spring from a used 5251:
The aforementioned NIB switches:
![Image](https://plot.ly/~haata/454.png)
Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 08:41
by seebart
Hmm interesting, thanks for posting that.
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 00:37
by Parak
I suspect that the reduced force is due to them being rubber banded for a few decades, and the considerable smoothness due to lack of environmental and human debris. However, the reduced travel is pretty weird and not quite explainable without comparing the two with calipers and such.
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 00:58
by scottc
Where'd you get these? I could do with a handful.
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 01:12
by Chyros
Wow. That NOS force curve is AMAZING. Look at how SMOOTH that thing is!
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 01:23
by Menuhin
The graph looks like it's drawn or it's some kind of simulation without adding anything to the noise parameters.
The reduced travel could be due to the spring being compressed for years stays at a height shorter than those never been kept in a prolonged compressed state.
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 03:30
by codemonkeymike
What a divine force curve.
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 10:04
by Parak
Yeah, HaaTa mentioned being surprised at the measurements and repeated another set with the same results. Each graph is a set of 4 measurements as well, so you can see the consistency (or lack thereof, for some switches).
Travel shouldn't be affected by the compression - there's no more room or give at the top of the travel that might indicate a weak spring, say.
@scottc: This was an ebay grab, and the seller doesn't have anything else of importance from what I understood. My plan is to use them in a long overdue project, and I'll have to see if I have any left over after that for potential selling/etc.
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 10:52
by Chyros
I'm actually quite happy I delayed my beamspring Teardown video now, this is definitely worth including. I mean Jesus Christ on a moped, this is by far the most beautiful force curve I've ever seen! A true testament to the switch' quality, I'd say.
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 12:33
by andrewjoy
Map it against a modern MX brown before they re did the tooling and made them better again
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 12:48
by Chyros
andrewjoy wrote: Map it against a modern MX brown before they re did the tooling and made them better again
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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Oh, the force curve of MX brown is pretty easy to find online:
![Image](https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3ad7ac09414636f4f039687ef32d2868)
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:31
by ohaimark
rekt
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 18:37
by Dingster
rip browns, disgusting shit colored plastic!
Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 13:15
by DustGod
rip