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Tipro symmetric stagger
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 20:57
by Minskleip
This is one of the 122 key Tipro keyboards 7bit got, equipped with a symmetric stagger layout. This layout is super! I only would like it to be more like a square and less like a trapezoid. This is my work keyboard; desoldered the buzzer
The left lower 1.5 key shifts to layer 3 which has numbers under DELETE and M<>JKLUIO. SYMB and NUMB switches between layer 1 and 4, which has symbols and numbers on the ESC row respectively. FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
The funny v2 key is C-F which is my prefix key in Stumpwm
Highly recommended!
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:07
by 7bit
Minskleip wrote:This is one of the 122 key Tipro keyboards 7bit got, equipped with a symmetric stagger layout. This layout is super! I only would like it to be more like a square and less like a trapezoid. This is my work keyboard; desoldered the buzzer
It would have been so easy: Just remove the black cap and remove the plate inside. shut the cap and it will never beep again.
I see you need more keys in the FUNCTION kit.
What was underneath the black squares? Are these hotkeys to pron sites?
Does FUN serve as RETURN?
Minskleip wrote: FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
So what is RETURN?
Also, which key caps do you need?
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:14
by Minskleip
7bit wrote:
It would have been so easy: Just remove the black cap and remove the plate inside. shupt the cap and it will never bep again.
Oh! The best part of that adventure was when I realised that I didn't have to desolder anything after all to disconnect the controller
7bit wrote:
I see you need more keys in the FUNCTION kit.
What was underneath the black squares? Are these hotkeys to pron sites?
Haha no. It's 'confidential information about work' - what they do is change groups in stumpwm.
Most of the blank keys have functions (or will have when I'm finished writing my stumpwm interface for tmux
), I'm just too lazy to make labels ...
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:17
by 7bit
I tried to just rip it off, then I had the cap in my hands and the plate fell out.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:20
by Minskleip
7bit wrote:
Does FUN serve as RETURN?
Minskleip wrote: FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
So what is RETURN?
Also, which key caps do you need?
Select, between G and H, is return!
For this layout I'd need a 1.5 unit ]}, normal colour; 1 unit \|, normal colour; 1.5 unit /?, normal colour. I think there is a asdf layer return in what I've ordered.
I think I'll use one of the 1.5 square/circle for the number switcher. Is there anything that might be used for stumpwm prefix (v2)? I'll have to look!
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:28
by 7bit
Minskleip wrote:Select, between G and H, is return!
For this layout I'd need a 1.5 unit ]}, normal colour; 1 unit \|, normal colour; 1.5 unit /?, normal colour. I think there is a asdf layer return in what I've ordered.
I think I'll use one of the 1.5 square/circle for the number switcher. Is there anything that might be used for stumpwm prefix (v2)? I'll have to look!
I'm using ETC from row 2 as return key for row 3.
I can't remember why I did not include a RETURN or RET key in Round 3.
1 unit \| for row 2, lets see ...
grep vert orders*.val | grep slash | grep R2
orders_BLOOD.val:R2U150 |42|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_NOIR.val:R2U150 | 48|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_ORANJE.val:R2U150 | 54|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_RETRO.val:R2U150 | 99|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_RETRO.val:R2U150 |100|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_ROUND3.val:R2U150 | 93|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_ROUND3.val:R2U150 | 12|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_SPH.val:R2U150 | 69|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_SPH.val:R2U150 | 1|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
Shit!
I've got it for row 1, 3 and 4. Why not for row 2?
Oh well ...
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:30
by Minskleip
Or a 1 unit row 4 back space
I'm using delete instead.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:31
by Minskleip
7bit wrote:1 unit \| for row 2, lets see ...
It's very possible that something like that was in R3, but without a 1.5 ]} ..
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No reason to put in more keys and make it even more expensive!
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:33
by 7bit
Minskleip wrote:Or a 1 unit row 4 back space
I'm using delete instead.
Just send me a list.
For SPH the 1 unit keys are no problem, but the 1.5 units }] will be.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 21:35
by Minskleip
7bit wrote:Minskleip wrote:Or a 1 unit row 4 back space
I'm using delete instead.
Just send me a list.
For SPH the 1 unit keys are no problem, but the 1.5 units }] will be.
Alright, I'll have a look at it and compare with the current sets.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 22:20
by Jim66
Very nice, have you had a hard time adjusting to it?
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 22:33
by Minskleip
Jim66 wrote:Very nice, have you had a hard time adjusting to it?
No, it was not that hard. The worst part is the shift keys, and I sometimes press select instead of h. Should have a stiffer spring there.
Regarding the symmetric staggering, it's just like a matrix layout except that the keycaps are not turned so the finger travel is slightly increased. I like this much more than the regular asymmetric layout.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 22:47
by Jim66
It's a nice layout, very uTron.
Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 22:54
by Minskleip
Webwit's post about the μTron's shift placements was the inspiration for the shift keys. And I thought that it would be better to change it more than less, to avoid confusion with regular keyboards.
Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 00:19
by Icarium
ok, now what did you blank out?
Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 07:14
by sordna
Very nice, I like the shifts in the middle too. Currently added keys to my Kinesis to shift with the thumbs, anything to relieve the pinkies is good!