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Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 03:22
by snacksthecat
A couple of guys on reddit reached out for help converting Data General boards. I finished one up last week and it turned out nicely.

But this other one that was sent to me... Is so nice!

I just have some photos for now but I'll also be posting my (probably failed) attempt to convert the protocol. Most likely this is going to be another controller replacement projects.

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Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 12:04
by benredikfyfasan
exciting! beautiful caps though!

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 15:04
by Dingster
Wow best of luck, very good looking board.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 05:26
by snacksthecat
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Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 05:38
by Polecat
Beautiful! I had one of these back in the '90s, and it had a lovely feel and sound. I really wanted to use it, but I had no way to convert it. I actually considered hand wiring the matrix and using the controller out of an AT clone keyboard, but I never got that far. I may still have it packed away in storage, but more likely I didn't save it.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 09:26
by PlacaFromHell
It is the clicky version of the Fujitsu leaf spring, right?

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 18:33
by snacksthecat
PlacaFromHell wrote:
29 Jan 2019, 09:26
It is the clicky version of the Fujitsu leaf spring, right?
Yep, here's a close up of what they look like in action (disassembled):

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 19:33
by Moosewing
Hey, that's my keyboard! Cool to see it getting some love on here. Super excited to get it back under my fingers because those are some absolute A+ Tier switches, to say nothing of the rest of the board.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 01 Feb 2019, 16:30
by PlacaFromHell
Thanks Snacks. For how it looks, should feel like a better and maybe softer Futaba MA.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 01 Feb 2019, 19:07
by Sangdrax
It's lucky that this is a 3rd Gen with the diodes so you can gut the controller and swap out. My Epson with the 2nd Gen leafsprings doesn't have that so the only hope I have is a converter. They are very lovely switches.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 01 Feb 2019, 21:10
by zigmachiz
I have four of these just sitting on my table. I'll get them working some day because the switches are a dream to use.

Re: Data General 6246 Keyboard Conversion

Posted: 10 Feb 2019, 02:09
by snacksthecat
I decided that I've been moving too slow on this project so I'm not going to poke around with the protocol this time around.

I got the matrix traced out and got everything wired up the other day. The majority of pins lined up nicely across two ICs. The problem is that a Teensy++ 2.0 doesn't fit nicely as a drop-in solution. For that reason, I had to tilt the pins outward on both sides. Here's what I'm talking about:
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From the top it looks pretty natural:
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And from the bottom:
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And here's the whole thing soldered in place with the additional wires as well:
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