deskthority

Redmaus wrote: […] The refugees only care about Islam, not the citizens of the countries letting them in. […]

The refugees care about as much about Islam as the people in your country (or in mine) about their own religion.
Some more, some less.

Maybe that statement was too absolute, I can't assume that about all the refugees because I don't know them but Islam is a religion that alienates everyone else. Such stuff like "death for leaving Islam" and whatnot.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages ... lence.aspx

...in extreme cases. Have you ever read the Bible? There's some crazy shit in there too.

Leviticus 15: 19-20 wrote: When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean.

Numbers 31:17-18 wrote: Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT wrote: You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.

You need to take any ancients text with a fucking truckload of salt.

Yes, but countries such as Saudi Arabia still practice barbaric things such as Sharia law.

So many people still take some of these "extreme" texts very seriously, such as death by stoning if you commit adultery.

Both of the primitive books have terrible things in them, the problem is that more islamic countries take that shit seriously where as none of the christian countries do.

I am more than happy for anyone to come to the EU or the UK if they follow some simple rules.

1. Respect others.
2. Follow the laws of the land.
3. Contribute to society (get an education or a job)
4. Leave your backwards bronze age customs at the door.


There is no need to worry however, God can be defeated with chariots made of iron, so i think we will be ok !

The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.

Now can we please talk about ABS!

andrewjoy wrote: Well the exact extent that people coming to the EU that are genuine refugees or economic migrants is not known but i would say its towards the latter.

The authorities regularly publish statistics with the number of applicants for asylum, their country of origin and the number of those for which it individually has been decided that they deserve protection.
The German statistics for last month (Jan 2016) are like this: More than 3/4 of the applicants were from Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan, two thirds of which (overall 54%) from Syria. In 64% of the cases, decisions were positive. Thus, two out of three are to be considered "genuine" refugees. They are the rule, not the exception.

What frightens me: During the Yugoslavian wars in the 1990, the number of refugees coming to Germany was comparable (1992: 430,191 applications for asylum, 2015: 476,649); the refugee container camp they've newly errected in our neighbourhood is at the same place where there used to be one in the 1990s. Then nobody complained, but this time around, neighbours went to court against it.

Merkel was right that Germany could bear the refugee flood. It was able to handle it in the 1990s without much ado. It is true that this time around they are more, but not by orders of magnitude, and the econimical situation is much better than in the 90s. What Merkel did not anticipate was that the other "christian" democrats could stab her in the back and poison the "welcome culture" by dramatizing the situation, by nourishing anxiety and xenophoebia.

Muirium wrote: If only Canada wasn't just as shitty for importing keyboards. Other than that, it's quite nice. Loads of cantankerous Scots over there too. Like most everywhere…

Yes have visited Vancouver and loved it, I hear it's become expensive though and oh yeah I'd need a job there too...

scottc wrote: Oh hey, look, another "Europe" thread!

No Scott this is the lego-europe thread!

derzemel wrote: oh, wow, this is a textbook example of the DT thread kidnapping )))

Yes it's called "offtopicthority". Happens.

Madhias wrote: Why do I even look in these threads! Only to be upset later of political viewpoints of various strangers on the internet!

So you still considder us "strangers on the internet"?

OleVoip wrote:

andrewjoy wrote: Merkel was right that Germany could bear the refugee flood

I'm not so sure about that. I'm talking about the logistics of it, not the political discussion. Merkel also publicly said "everyone can come to Germany", so that's addresses anyone that wants to come over here in the entire world!!

ABS you say, andrewjoy?!



ABSolutely!

Deskthority: the authority on input devices (and European foreign policy (and fitness))

scottc wrote: Deskthority: the authority on input devices (and European foreign policy)

I think we could do a very good job running the EU. As i have said before the EU is an amazing idea but its run by idiots.

We could do all sorts of cool stuff, we could reduce the import task on keyboards , Mµ could have his little banana republic, we could enforce internet freedoms and get rid of all that scary shit that GHCQ is doing, the list is endless.

andrewjoy wrote:

scottc wrote: Deskthority: the authority on input devices (and European foreign policy)

I think we could do a very good job running the EU. As i have said before the EU is an amazing idea but its run by idiots.

We could do all sorts of cool stuff, we could reduce the import task on keyboards , Mµ could have his little banana republic, we could enforce internet freedoms and get rid of all that scary shit that GHCQ is doing, the list is endless.

I think you're underestimating that, it's a lot of work, especially if you want to solve the problems and make everyone happy.

andrewjoy wrote: Both of the primitive books have terrible things in them, the problem is that more islamic countries take that shit seriously where as none of the christian countries do.

I am more than happy for anyone to come to the EU or the UK if they follow some simple rules.

1. Respect others.
2. Follow the laws of the land.
3. Contribute to society (get an education or a job)
4. Leave your backwards bronze age customs at the door.

Many migrants don't do this because sharia law prohibits it. I hate to put it so bluntly but this is the simple truth. In many Islamic cultures, women are treated poorly and therefore it is find to rape them. There have been many cases of muslim rapings in the EU simply because the migrants didn't know it was a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate muslims, I am even friends with some and have been in their house. They had very strong family values(eat with each other every dinner etc) and were very smart and kind.

Its the people that have lived in barbaric and uncivilized society that I don't like. I think it is a mistake to invite people like that into a mainly Christian, European society. The refugees should go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia(even they don't want them) if they want to escape war.

I can't link sources because my school has the word rape and such filtered, but if you look it up you will find reports where they simply didn't know rape was bad.

seebart wrote:

Madhias wrote: Why do I even look in these threads! Only to be upset later of political viewpoints of various strangers on the internet!

So you still considder us "strangers on the internet"?

Of course not, at least not all, I have the address of some of you already

andrewjoy wrote:

scottc wrote: Deskthority: the authority on input devices (and European foreign policy)

I think we could do a very good job running the EU. As i have said before the EU is an amazing idea but its run by idiots.

We could do all sorts of cool stuff, we could reduce the import task on keyboards , Mµ could have his little banana republic, we could enforce internet freedoms and get rid of all that scary shit that GHCQ is doing, the list is endless.

And legalise various types of porn in the UK again!

Madhias wrote:

seebart wrote:

Madhias wrote: Why do I even look in these threads! Only to be upset later of political viewpoints of various strangers on the internet!

So you still considder us "strangers on the internet"?

Of course not, at least not all, I have the address of some of you already

Right mine too but that's not what I meant.

scottc wrote: nd legalise various types of porn in the UK again!

Fine by me, I'd legalize all kinds of marijuana in Germany!

Everything is possible: so long as you never, ever, ask the people.

Politicians are what they are because they must work within democracy. Which is demonstrably a very sub-optimal idea.

derzemel wrote: oh, wow, this is a textbook example of the DT thread kidnapping )))

DerailThority at it again!

Muirium wrote: Everything is possible: so long as you never, ever, ask the people.

Politicians are what they are because they must work within democracy. Which is demonstrably a very sub-optimal idea.

What would be your alternative? Also, many of the people should not be voting, at least here in America

EDIT: I mean because of illegals voting. Many states do not require ID to vote. Or maybe I'm missing something.

Muirium wrote: Everything is possible: so long as you never, ever, ask the people.

Politicians are what they are because they must work within democracy. Which is demonstrably a very sub-optimal idea.

Very true. The german goverment prefers the "never, ever, ask the people" method. Less fussy. Not really democracy? Nah no one will notice, they're all to busy with their gadgets and social media crap. Just pay your taxes and shut up.

scottc wrote:
And legalise various types of porn in the UK again!

Remember the golden rule

Spanking = Not OK
Fucking a Pig = OK

Redmaus wrote: Many migrants don't do this because sharia law prohibits it. I hate to put it so bluntly but this is the simple truth. In many Islamic cultures, women are treated poorly and therefore it is find to rape them. There have been many cases of muslim rapings in the EU simply because the migrants didn't know it was a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate muslims, I am even friends with some and have been in their house. They had very strong family values(eat with each other every dinner etc) and were very smart and kind.

Its the people that have lived in barbaric and uncivilized society that I don't like. I think it is a mistake to invite people like that into a mainly Christian, European society. The refugees should go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia(even they don't want them) if they want to escape war.

I can't link sources because my school has the word rape and such filtered, but if you look it up you will find reports where they simply didn't know rape was bad.

Thats exactly why they need to leave all that sharia law stuff and backwards views at the door, if they don't please go back to the hell hole you came from.

Sorry to put it that bluntly but sharia law and islamic beliefs are incompatible with civilised western society. They are a retardant of education and science and a threat to the advancement of mankind.

Don't think of me as some right wing trump supporting nut job far from it, but i am not one of the hyper progressives ( cough cough Clinton cough ) who say we should respect others views be all inclusive blah blah hyper offended special snowflake. We should respect peoples right to have a view or idea, not the viewpoint itself. Bring your idea to the open marketplace of ideas and if its a good one it will stay if its not then it will be cut to pieces.

As Bill Maher said , our society is not just different , its better.

seebart wrote: Merkel also publicly said "everyone can come to Germany", so that's addresses anyone that wants to come over here in the entire world!!

That's not what Merkel said, it's what her words got twisted to. A typical example for the ballyhooing and polemics we're currently faced with.

andrewjoy wrote:

scottc wrote:
And legalise various types of porn in the UK again!

Remember the golden rule

Spanking = Not OK
Fucking a Pig = OK

gets me every time.

Also always reminds me of this: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/1 ... s-cameron/

Is that about the alleged rumor of UK Prime minister David Cameron fucking a pig?

OleVoip wrote:

seebart wrote: Merkel also publicly said "everyone can come to Germany", so that's addresses anyone that wants to come over here in the entire world!!

That's not what Merkel said, it's what her words got twisted to. A typical example for the ballyhooing and polemics we're currently faced with.

OK what did she say then? Nothing? Something else? She later try to relativise that statement that is true, whatever the initial statement was. The woman is incompetent in my view. She should step down as chancellor.

http://daserste.ndr.de/annewill/Die-Kan ... l4272.html

Redmaus wrote: […] Many migrants don't do this because sharia law prohibits it. I hate to put it so bluntly but this is the simple truth. In many Islamic cultures, women are treated poorly and therefore it is find to rape them. There have been many cases of muslim rapings in the EU simply because the migrants didn't know it was a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate muslims, I am even friends with some and have been in their house. They had very strong family values(eat with each other every dinner etc) and were very smart and kind.

Its the people that have lived in barbaric and uncivilized society that I don't like. I think it is a mistake to invite people like that into a mainly Christian, European society. The refugees should go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia(even they don't want them) if they want to escape war.

I can't link sources because my school has the word rape and such filtered, but if you look it up you will find reports where they simply didn't know rape was bad.

That's a bunch of prejudices and groundless assertions which do not become true just because they're repeated over and over.
Similarly you can find thousands of pages where Mossad, or at your choice Freemasonry, or the French Connection drugs organisation, or even a group wanting to prevent him from revealing contacts with extraterrestrial aliens, is made responsible for JFK's assassination.

And then, let me paraphrase you:

Don't get me wrong I don't hate Americans, I am even friends with some and have been in their house. […]

Its the people that have lived in barbaric and uncivilized society that I don't like. I think it is a mistake to invite people like that into a mainly Christian, European society. After all, they carry guns and apply the death penalty.

Redmaus wrote: I can't link sources because my school has the word rape and such filtered ...

Briliant... Schools, lighthouses of the Enlightenment!

Well at least we completely derailed this once harmless LEGO plastics thread...

kbdfr wrote:
And then, let me paraphrase you:

Don't get me wrong I don't hate Americans, I am even friends with some and have been in their house. […]

Its the people that have lived in barbaric and uncivilized society that I don't like. I think it is a mistake to invite people like that into a mainly Christian, European society. After all, they carry guns and apply the death penalty.

Your comparing a ideology to a country, totally different things. I am sure the person would be fine, they have been brainwashed by a backwards ideology, the solution is simple , education.

Halvar wrote:

Redmaus wrote: I can't link sources because my school has the word rape and such filtered ...

Briliant... Schools, lighthouses of the Enlightenment!

Thats because most schools ( college and university) are now too worried about offending people, building safe spaces and teaching gender studies rather than teaching people maths , science and so on and having debates about important stuff. The students are no better , constantly crying they are oppressed or offended at every little thing, entitled little children.

kbdfr wrote:
That's a bunch of prejudices and groundless assertions which do not become true just because they're repeated over and over.
Similarly you can find thousands of pages where Mossad, or at your choice Freemasonry, or the French Connection drugs organisation, or even a group wanting to prevent him from revealing contacts with extraterrestrial aliens, is made responsible for JFK's assassination.

So we should just ignore anything that happens and invite refugees no matter how destructive they are?

I'm not sure what point you trying to make with guns and death penalty.

Redmaus wrote: So we should just ignore anything that happens and invite refugees no matter how destructive they are?

Do you really know that all of them are destructive by nature. Why do you think they are fleeing in the first place? For fun?

andrewjoy wrote: […] Your comparing a ideology to a country, totally different things. I am sure the person would be fine, they have been brainwashed by a backwards ideology, the solution is simple , education.

Now you're completely confusing things. Islam is not an ideology, it is a religion. And of course there are idiots making their own interpretation of it, exactly like those people who "in the name of life" shoot abortion doctors in the US.