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Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 15:31
by gogusrl
It's here and I have no idea what this is. Some keycaps are doubleshots with pad printed secondary legends, others are pad printed only I guess. The switches have no branding on them. Will take it apart tonight and come back with more pics.

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Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 15:34
by HzFaq
Nice, looking forward to your investigation :D.

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 21:20
by gogusrl
album here, will make a thread with it tomorrow. the 9 key is the only one not doubleshot.

http://imgur.com/a/M3o7B

Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 18:20
by t8c
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I have figured out that the main keyboard is Tipro Futuro, but what about the two programmables on the side ? 8-) 8-)

Edit: Maybe it's Tipro Free 32 ? :)

Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 22:34
by tentator
Anybody have any clue about dreamcast keyboards?
I suppose all just rubber domes, right?
they have some really nice layouts tough...: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dreamcast-White ... 1755622360

and btw really nice indigo setup there!!!

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 04:03
by guk
Mitsumi hybrid iirc. Nvm, looks like regular rd.

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 10:42
by kbdfr
t8c wrote: [pic]

I have figured out that the main keyboard is Tipro Futuro, but what about the two programmables on the side ? 8-) 8-)

Edit: Maybe it's Tipro Free 32 ? :)
No. They are the old Tipro MID range, the exact model you can see here:
other-devices-f3/i-want-something-i-hav ... ml#p262069
(but of course with different keycaps).

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 10:49
by scottc
Is that picture of 7bit's setup? Tipro, round 4, SGI Indy case...

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 15:31
by Karandach
Hello !
Not really a question about keyboard identification but I wonder what font is used on the labels of model m ?

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Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 15:35
by Halvar
Whoever counterfeits Model M labels will burn in rubberdome hell for the rest of the UNIX era (i.e. forever).

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 15:45
by ReleaseCandidate
scottc wrote: Is that picture of 7bit's setup? Tipro, round 4, SGI Indy case...
Yes: group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements- ... -4050.html

Am I too dumb or is there no way to link a single post?

Edit: Thanks, mu

post114245.html#p114245

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 15:49
by Muirium
Right click the little paper icon next to the post you want.

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 16:38
by Karandach
Halvar wrote: Whoever counterfeits Model M labels will burn in rubberdome hell for the rest of the UNIX era (i.e. forever).
Not to counterfeits but to preserve my models ;)
I have a model without label and I'd like to stick one with my anniversary date :lol:

Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 21:55
by tentator
any idea what could an original G83 cherry keyboard full of ESC keys be? (I know it's rubberdome but was wondering why they did an exemplar full of esc keys... to test?)

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 06:19
by Hak Foo
Halvar wrote: Whoever counterfeits Model M labels will burn in rubberdome hell for the rest of the UNIX era (i.e. forever).
I've seen it... I got a board once that was clearly early 1391401 which had a crudely Xeroxed 1390131 label on it.

The guys who made the Blue Alps 1390131s... that's a "I'm not even mad, that's amazing" moment.

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 19:57
by Touch_It
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Self shame. I made a thread for this that someone was nice enough to combine into the mega thread. Thanks! I will try to read better in the future.

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:02
by derzemel
Linear Green Alps or clones?
Just got this FRAEL thing.
The PCB is marked as NTC KB-6251 EA, which, according to the wiki it should have either Blue or White Alps. Also the plate is plastic which is also specified in the wiki for this model.
Either these are Green Alps, or they are VEEEERY very good clones (maybe even better than the original :evilgeek:). I have a Zenith ZKB-7 with SKCL Green and the FRAEL ones are smoother.
There is 1 main thing that made me think that they might be clones - the shape of the leaf inside the switch (see the 3rd image bellow). Also the color of the leaf is gold/copper, the flash on my phone made it look whitish.

Anyway, pictures now:

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P.S.: FRAEL is similar in pronunciation with "fraier" which is the Romanian word for "sucker, dumb"

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:11
by hypkx
could be the same switches as in my keyboard: photos-f62/ntc-kb-6251-green-linear-hua ... ?hilit=ntc

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:21
by ohaimark
They're definitely clones. No LED slot.

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:25
by Chyros
They're clones. They look to be in excellent condition however, that probably helps ;) .

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:33
by seebart
ohaimark wrote: They're definitely clones. No LED slot.
That's right Alps SKCL always have the LED recess. Could still be pretty nice though. :)

wiki/Alps_SKCL_Green

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:39
by derzemel
ohaimark wrote: They're definitely clones. No LED slot.
Not all green Alps have the LED slot. The SKCM variant do not have the slot (but those are tactile).
The fact that they were linear and did not have a LED slot was another thing that made me think that they might be clones.
Chyros wrote: They're clones. They look to be in excellent condition however, that probably helps ;) .
Yes, based on the link that hypkx has provided earlier, they are Hua-Jie AK C5/D5 clones.
The board and the switches are in excellent condition. I did not clean it before taking the pictures :P
After playing with the board a bit I really like these clones and i stand by my opinion that they are are as good as SKCL Green ALPS (or even smoother).

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:45
by seebart
derzemel wrote: Not all green Alps have the LED slot. The SKCM variant do not have the slot (but those are tactile).
That is right but all SKCL have the LED recess. SKC(L) = LED. ;)

I find it more interesting that NTC also used clones with green sliders, whatever they are.

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:47
by Chyros
Well the LED slot and the four tabs and the contact style and what appears to be the colour saturation of the slider and the mould numbering :p .

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:50
by seebart
Chyros wrote: Well the LED slot and the four tabs and the contact style and what appears to be the colour saturation of the slider and the mould numbering :p .
Yes but the saturation of the slider less so, I've seen color variations of sliders in real Alps like blue Alps sliders that looked almost purple. The contact and the makrings on the housing are usually the giveaway.

Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 22:06
by derzemel
well, this was very educational for me :D

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 10:43
by mars
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Guys I found this HP keyboard attached to an old terminal in a datacenter.

It felt really great, maybe even more so than my hhkb, I don't know if it has some kind of tactile switches or rubberdome.
There was no hint on the back.

Can anyone identify it?
Thanks

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 11:11
by Muirium
Pull a cap…

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 14:08
by Chyros
Key Tronic rubber; rattley and rubbery...

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 15:06
by mars
I couldn't pull a cap as I was by a client and in a hurry.

An helpful anon on the most famous imageboard in the west found it though:
HP C3340-60201