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Calling all PCB Designers! (For the brand new Model F project)

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 04:21
by Ellipse
Can any PCB designers help shrink the footprint of the xwhatsit Model F USB?

Now that the brand new Model F F62 and F77 keyboard prototypes are finished, I am working on the alternative case design I mentioned in the thread, for those who want a more compact 60% Model F keyboard and F77 keyboard.

To make the case smaller we would need to make the xwhatsit controller take up a smaller PCB area.

Since the xwhatsit PCB is a part of the capacitive PCB for the project (like on the original XT keyboard), there does not need to be the extra spacing and holes for the pins and the PCB can be squeezed a bit.

It would be a great help if any of you PCB designers can volunteer to move some things around on the xwhatsit Model F PCB. I think the PCB footprint could be cut in half the size (cutting in both length and width directions), especially since it does not need the 4 ground pins or as much of a ground plane as the controller PCB would share the large ground plane of the capacitive PCB.

Feel free to discuss with me over PM if you'd prefer.

Here's a sense of what I was thinking:
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Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 05:25
by __red__
Got a link to the original schematic handy?

The answer is yes btw.

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 06:00
by Ellipse
Great __red__! The original files are at xwhatsit's web site:

http://downloads.cornall.co/ibm-capsense-usb/0.9.0/

And the file name is ibm-capsense-usb_0.9.0.tar.gz

xwhatsit used Kicad for this project.

Here are some photos of how the IBM XT Model F keyboard's controller was on the same PCB as the capacitive PCB:
http://kishy.ca/?attachment_id=297
http://kishy.ca/?attachment_id=298

Re: Calling all PCB Designers! (For the brand new Model F project)

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 16:17
by __red__
Do you want me to place it on your existing pcb design for the keyboard or separate so you can prototype with it?

Did you end up using diptrace to design your board thus far?

Unless you have a really compelling reason to keep it on the same board I would strongly recommend having them separate. Board2board connections are significantly more available and cheaper now than they were in the 80s.

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 19:43
by Ellipse
Hi __red__,

I sent you a PM so we can discuss some more.

Thanks!

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 20:48
by ramnes
Awesome!

Re: Calling all PCB Designers! (For the brand new Model F project)

Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 22:11
by __red__
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