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Out of interest which do people find to be the lesser of two evils; a small shift or a small backspace, its not really a problem with ANSI board but it is on some ISO ones...

Small shift is great. Small backspace is THE FUCKING DEVIL.

Both equality terrible in my book. I would not buy a keyboard if it had either. Though if I had to use either, I think I'd be able to deal with the backspace better.

Small backspace is ok as long as a HHKB is built around it.

Having made extensive use of keyboards with both of this layout features, I find them perfectly adjustable to. I think the vast majority of people who complain about them have never actually used them, and are just derping because it looks different to their current keyboard.

I've never used one with a small backspace, but a small left shift is so annoying that I remap the key next to it to shift and use that instead. I grew up on ISO.

sixty wrote:Small shift is great. Small backspace is THE FUCKING DEVIL.

there's no need to be shy here or hold back, tell us what you really think

Yeah I use French Canadian keyboards all the time. They fucking suck.

Using a g80-1800 I have gotten used to a a small L Shift. But seriously, fuck small backspace keys, those drive me crazy.

Growing up on ISO makes that choice easy xD
My pinky has gotten used to doing that "akward" bend. But a small backspace sucks hard. Used one board with that once.. missed the damn key all the time.

Small shift. Clear choise, only idiots would think different ;D

Ekaros wrote:Small shift. Clear choise, only idiots would think different ;D

Stop calling me an idiot!

Small Backspace is bad. I prefer it to be one row down (1.5x). Small shift is great because it gives a 2nd modifier key. The only bad thing is that they are the wrong way round.

Really evil keys are J-shape return and 2.75 units right shift!


But the most evil of them all: The big-ass L-shape return!

The keyboard of your worst nightmare would be a Steelseries 7G US-layout A small backspace is OK .. if it's a POS-board and the lettering says 'BS' ..
If the lettering doesn't say 'BS' it's just a POS-board !

I have many keyboards, including a Steelseries 6GV2 and while I like the MX blacks, I hate the tiny backspace. L shaped return I can live with, although I'm no fan of it either. The non-ANSI layout and it's small backspace are the main reasons it's stored somewhere in it's box.

I have a 6gv2 in 'Nordic' layout : I prefer the BIGASS-return to the normal ISO-layout one, but I don't like
how it requires everything else to be moved around to.
ANSI is clearly prettier, partly because it has a symmetrical look ..

I went by on Amiga keyboards in Swedish/Finnish layout during most of the '90s. That layout has both a short left Shift and small Backspace.

Already said elsewhere, best is ISO, but the 6gv2 layout is also very good.

This is why I prefer proper ANSI.

However, I don't want either. I'm a left shift only guy and I hit full sized backspace in the middle.

small backspace ftw
small left is the devil...

You guys are so weird.

I prefer the small Backspace, because you can easily remap it to capslock.

Am I the only one that love both? I can't vote and I feel sad!

The small Backspace for me is fantastic. I prefer the Left Little Shift than the large one too.

Maybe It have to do with the Steelseries 7G being my first mechanical keyboard. I ended up loving the small backspace on ISO Layout

Nobody like Right Small Shift here? I do

BTW 7g is not ISO, and the ISO layout has not a tiny backspace, just the left shift.

I never press the backspace key anwway, so I don't really care how small it is. Backspacing is what the caps lock key is for.

I would have some concers about the size of that enter key though. I mean, those massive L shaped enter key might be... maybe a little heavier for a pinkie to have to press. Especially on a buckling spring keyboard.

I'll stick with my standard ANSI I think. (Yes, I grew up on ISO/UK. But I remapped the # key next to enter to be enter because the greater distance between home keys and enter annoyed me greatly)

I've been doing fine with large shift and small backspace... I could get used to both being small. I'd take small backspace over small shift since I'm already using it.

For all of them, plus return, It's not the size, it's the position. Even 1x keys would be fine if they weren't displaced further away from the home position by extra keys.

Ah, you look like a left thumber for space (the shine mark). I wondered how you could handle that mini spacebar.

What about small tits?

RiGS wrote:What about small tits?

HEAVEN compared to the layout above ...

Only if they are perky.