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Barrel plate / frame?

Posted: 25 Aug 2013, 03:40
by Daniel Beardsmore
Does the term "barrel plate" cover both the steel plate in the Model F that held the barrels, as well as the single plastic moulding in the Model M?

What is the equivalent part called in the Fujitsu Peerless — it's the same as what's in the Model M: curved plastic plate for the sliders.

Posted: 25 Aug 2013, 13:52
by Muirium
Good question. Seems reasonable that it does. But the truth requires one of the real IBM mavens to chime in.

Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 01:00
by Daniel Beardsmore
It looks like these IBM mavens might have all retired :)

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 20:03
by Daniel Beardsmore
Anyone?

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 20:12
by Findecanor
I think that the word "barrel plate" is perfectly all right to use. Also for rubber dome keyboards.
Until we find a better word, if there is any.

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:38
by Daniel Beardsmore
Rubber dome keyboards don't have barrels, nor does the model M really (it does have cylindrical shafts, but they're not detachable). You know that webwit will crucify me if I persist mistaken terminology, despite how many people are using it ;-) At the very least, I'd like a consensus that shows that everyone agrees on the terminology.

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:41
by Muirium
Hmm… a shaft plate. Shaft is always a good word! But they're still barrels even if they're all one and the same plastic.

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:57
by JBert
I tend to call the model F plate the "front plate", which in this case has holes in it, whereas the other one is called the back plate.

It's mostly the model M which complicates things because the barels are moulded into that part.

Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 14:29
by daedalus
In that video of the keyboard factory in Greenock, the Model F front plate is indeed referred to as a "front plate". In the days gone by, I used to call it an "upper assembly" which was just confusing in hindsight.

In the absence of anything better to call it, I'd probably call the Model M's one a front plate too. Unless of course I dig out that paper which describes the construction of the Model M from the recesses of my hard drive, in which case we may get a clarification...

Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 22:52
by Daniel Beardsmore
I've decided to keep out of this one :) I was hoping to get a widespread discussion/consensus, and without that, I don't feel that I'm in a position to define terminology for a product I don't understand. The only term I see mentioned is "barrel plate", which is not defined on the wiki — I figured I could add it, but IBM is most definitely not my area at all.

Posted: 03 Sep 2013, 08:10
by ماء
Metal curved baseplate from cickykeyboard!
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cf ... /id/573994

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 02:11
by Daniel Beardsmore
That's a different part. Pressure membrane keyboards need to be kept perfectly flat and taut, so you always have a flat (but possibly curved and flat, if that makes sense) plate underneath the membrane layers. It may be metal or plastic.