deskthority

Might as well post a new topic on this.
It seems the new switch from Matias is the Quiet Click.

More info: http://matias.ca/switches/quiet/

Group buy, please!

Note the new stem colour and what Matias says about Cherry linear. Well worth a look.

He generally bashes Cherry quite a lot in his recent product descriptions

But this is the first time I have really been interested in a Matias switch. I like linear so Cherry normally fine for me, but blues is just way too noisy and I hate their upstroke. So this has got my interest!

If we can get a group buy of some Alps keycaps from SP, with a simple and understated color scheme like Dolch, then I would definitely consider building my next keyboard with these Quiet Click!

7bit still selling?
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ ... as%20order

quiet click... interesting.

I tried the clicky ones and they seriously disappointed me. They are the most boring clicky switches I've tried. Let's hope in this new version, even though the lack of keycaps is a serious problem for custom kb.

You're eyeing an M0110 right now too. You know what I'm thinking. Are they compatible?

Muirium wrote:You're eyeing an M0110 right now too. You know what I'm thinking. Are they compatible?

not even close

Ah well. I'll still find a use for these. I do have a rather fine set of doubleshot Alps caps from a laptop still to use.

those M0110 caps are a piece of work! They are thick and heavy. I hate to say that... but they don't make caps like those anymore

Ah, of course, the Alp before the Alps. So I'll keep the original switches. I do still really want to have a go wiring up that board. It'll go nicely with my 30 years younger Macs!

As for Matias soft click, sorry "quiet click", have you any other Alps ideas? I remember a certain custom plate you had in the works. I could be up for something similar this year, as I have the caps, if we can find a solution for the stabs.

I still need reference for the stabs... I'd really like to proceed with the whitefox (aka alps custom)

They were calling it Quiet Click when they came out, and this isn't actually new...

Well, the 4800 pack is, but they don't have that listed with a price.

They've also got a product page for the Click now: http://matias.ca/switches/click/

That said, it's going more than a bit over the top to say that Cherry's switches can't be tactile due to not having a click leaf. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Yes, the Matias Clicks feel a hell of a lot better than MX Blue, in my opinion, but the MX Blue does have a mechanism specifically to add tactility and clickiness.

When did they come out then, if not now?

They were certainly available in August when I wrote my review of the Tactile Pro 4: http://bhtooefr.org/blog/2013/08/22/mat ... rd-review/

I'm slightly confused. From 7bit's sale thread, I had thought that Matias switches were either quiet, or click. Just to make sure, are these the same "quiet" ones as before or a third switch type..?

Exactly. We are talking about a 3rd version of the Matias switch here, right? The (unintended) lack of easily identifiable stem colours until now has always given the clicky and tactile Matias switches dubious names compared to simply red and blue and so on. Are you sure you spotted a third Matias switch some time ago, that was neither the clicky nor tactile version? Because this one sounds new to me, with some of the better features of both: the clicky's click and the tactile's damping.

Quiet Click is what they've always called their damped switch.

oh okay they are the same switches. I'd call them "quiet tactile" more than clicky. Anyway I may give them a shot sooner or later.

Damn. Only two kinds of switches here:

http://matias.ca/switches/

The tactile (or I suppose we can now call it grey) isn't my kind of switch. But I do like the damping, and would order up some of the soft click switches with, you know, a click mechanism…

It is possible to make a hybrid switch, put the Click's click leaf in place of the Quiet Click's tactile leaf. Or the Quiet Click's slider in the Click switch.

And the colors aren't different between the types, for what it's worth.

bhtooefr wrote:It is possible to make a hybrid switch, put the Click's click leaf in place of the Quiet Click's tactile leaf. Or the Quiet Click's slider in the Click switch.

And the colors aren't different between the types, for what it's worth.

have you tried that? how does it feel/sound?

I've heard it's good. I have one of each switch myself, perhaps I need a couple more so I can create all four combinations.

The "quiet click" stem is a different colour now.

Stem colour: Grey (formerly White)

But I'm not sure what I'd do with all the remaining parts if I got both kinds and made the match myself for an entire keyboard's worth. Much easier when you don't have to mod!

ah wait, I have some spares for both switches. I may try. but I'm not able to tell the goodness of a switch outside of the full board.

And keycaps do change the sound of the Matias Clicks significantly.

Might be worth making a switch try Alpsulator or something.

bhtooefr wrote:And keycaps do change the sound of the Matias Clicks significantly.

This is the case with MX (PCB mounted vs. plate mounted, ABS vs. PBT, different thicknesses) I'm sure this is the same for ALPS, no reason for the contrary.

I think it's even more the case with Matias / Alps than with MX because of where the click is generated. MX has a click sleeve (I might be butchering an actual technical term…) which, in my experience* has its own sound which is still there no matter what you do with them. Alps / Matias has a click leaf that seems to be easier to muffle depending on what's near the slider; most obviously caps. They can really sing with some caps, and barely make a whimper over the clack with others.

*Loads of MX greens and blues but only a handful of Matias and Alps.

bhtooefr wrote:Quiet Click is what they've always called their damped switch.

Before they were available, Matias used a couple different names in forums. First, it was "Matias Orange", but they found that the orange pigment interfered with the plastic properties, so they chose to make the sliders white and call it "Matias Quiet".
That is the name I put into the Wiki. I did not realise that the name was changed against after it was released.

bhtooefr wrote:It is possible to make a hybrid switch, put the Click's click leaf in place of the Quiet Click's tactile leaf. Or the Quiet Click's slider in the Click switch.

I would be surprised if it didn't. I did it with old complicated Alps: Cream's slider and White's click leaf into Black's housing.

Stupid question:*

Is it the same, just with a grey stem, or is it a new switch?


BTW, I sell 2 variants (clicky and tactile) for 0.24 EUR per switch ...

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*) too lazy to do the research myself

Apparently just the same old switch, now in grey.

how you dare calling it "tactile"... it's "quiet clicky"!