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by Proto
20 May 2019, 20:07
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Gapless keys with Teflon, near frictionless side walls
Replies: 0
Views: 875

Gapless keys with Teflon, near frictionless side walls

Hi all -- I was thinking about the MacBook Pro's sucky keyboard and how a grain of sand can kneecap the whole board. The MBP's keycaps have very little border space around, but there's just enough for a grain of sand or whatever to get in there, and if it does, they apparently can't handle it for so...
by Proto
17 Jul 2018, 07:49
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

New airguns usually use nitro pistons instead of springs. They are a lot more consistent, smoother (if they are well lubed) and more durable, considering that those pistons have less vibrations and a more straight upstoke they should be even more lineal than normal springs. You could combine them w...
by Proto
17 Jul 2018, 07:49
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

New airguns usually use nitro pistons instead of springs. They are a lot more consistent, smoother (if they are well lubed) and more durable, considering that those pistons have less vibrations and a more straight upstoke they should be even more lineal than normal springs. You could combine them w...
by Proto
05 Jul 2018, 08:52
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

Do Apple's problematic super-thin keyboards have springs? (https://www.extremetech.com/computing/272661-apple-keyboards-vulnerable-to-single-grain-of-sand-analysis) I think I mistakenly assumed all keys had springs, but Apple's don't look like they have room for springs. I'm still intrigued by a pas...
by Proto
02 Jul 2018, 09:56
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

Hi all -- Thanks for all the info. On the magnetic idea, I just discovered something called a Hall Effect keyboard that has been around a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_technology#Hall-effect_keyboard Hall effect is only a sensing technology however. It does not produce any resistanc...
by Proto
29 Jun 2018, 06:55
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

Blaise170 wrote: Image
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by Proto
29 Jun 2018, 06:52
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

Hi all -- Thanks for all the info. On the magnetic idea, I just discovered something called a Hall Effect keyboard that has been around a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_ ... t_keyboard
by Proto
23 May 2018, 23:24
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

A couple people on reddit have done some experimenting with magnets. I'm not able to fetch the link right now but I'll come back later and post it. You can also find it pretty easily by searching /r/mechanicalkeyboards https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/84yxkj/modification_repell...
by Proto
18 May 2018, 22:18
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.
Replies: 29
Views: 7605

Alternatives to springs for key switches -- air, gel, etc.

Hello everyone, To your knowledge, has anyone developed or offered a different kind of key cushioning mechanism? It seems like metal springs have been the only mechanism. What about an air spring system or gel? I saw an old patent for a torsion bar instead of a spring -- that's the only alternative ...
by Proto
10 Jan 2017, 05:54
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternative keyboard protocol/interface (besides USB and PS/2)
Replies: 17
Views: 4979

I remember a person on the forum using a version of Apple's charging cable to create a hot-pluggable number pad add-on to his 75% keyboard. It magnetically latches and shouldn't emit any radiation. Maybe the IEEE 1394 (FireWire) four pin port could be useful for a custom keyboard port? There are ne...
by Proto
09 Jan 2017, 12:23
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternative keyboard protocol/interface (besides USB and PS/2)
Replies: 17
Views: 4979

I've always found polling strange for a keyboard protocol. Have you seen the changes in USB 3.0? I think it offers an event-driven or interrupt model. Locked-down USB via software is possible in theory, but I think we have plenty of experience at this point that software solutions that are possible ...
by Proto
09 Jan 2017, 06:27
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Alternative keyboard protocol/interface (besides USB and PS/2)
Replies: 17
Views: 4979

Alternative keyboard protocol/interface (besides USB and PS/2)

Hello everyone: Do you know of any alternative keyboard connector interfaces besides USB and PS/2? Have you heard of any efforts to create one? I'm most interested in contemporary or new efforts, not things that historically preceded PS/2 like the AT interface. What about alternative protocols? I've...
by Proto
10 Mar 2016, 01:13
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Optical Keyboard.. where is it now on the market?
Replies: 9
Views: 4209

Hi all. New member here. Optical keyboards should be fairly easy, and cheap with commodity LEDs and plastic fiber light pipes. There were lots of interesting patents filed back in the 1970s and 80s laying out different implementations. These are all expired and public domain at this point (there are...

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