Here is the latest for the JIS sets. We now have 3 versions.
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- 10 May 2021, 02:30
- Forum: Group buys
- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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- 05 May 2021, 06:09
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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I was thinking that perhaps we should go with a Modern and Vintage style Japanese layout to make everyone happy. What do you think? Vintage Tab key could be made more vintage (double arrow style) but I'm not a fan. All 3 bottom row options included with each set. New font shown.
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- 05 May 2021, 04:03
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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JIS punctuation alignment.png
Blue : bottom left justified
Green : vertically centered, horizontally centererd?
Purple : top right justified?
Red : vertically centered ?, right justified?
I think I have things correct but IBM does not agree. They seem to put the red and purple symbols left ...
- 05 May 2021, 00:49
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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I think option 1 is the best. The proper length space key for Japanese is 2.5U. Maybe you guys say you can't manufacture this...
My font is a Chinese font and Japanese is not displayed. I think you need to know the difference between Chinese and Japanese to handle it. The same kanji will look ...
- 04 May 2021, 04:12
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I think option 1 is the best. The proper length space key for Japanese is 2.5U. Maybe you guys say you can't manufacture this...
My font is a Chinese font and Japanese is not displayed. I think you need to know the difference between Chinese and Japanese to handle it. The same kanji will look ...
- 03 May 2021, 17:56
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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I have previously used the 5576c01 layout as a reference to create a keyboard layout. This uses a font that is much closer to Ishii Gothic than Yu Gothic. I can provide you with a print sheet that is almost identical to the 5576 layout if you ask me for help. This font is a bit tricky to work with ...
- 03 May 2021, 17:20
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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I'd happily second a shorter space key, but unfortunately the previous example already seems to be using the shorter space bar style (the same as the one in JIS Unicomp layout) and I'm not sure it can come any shorter.
It is my understanding that the Japanese orders will have a 5.5U spacebar ...
- 02 May 2021, 21:35
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Thanks for the feedback! One of the customers didn't recognize some of the hiragana punctuation symbols on the old 'A' layout "『』" so I worked up the more modern layout based on the Wiki link I posted above. Looks like we now have a vote for each.
The 'Alt' + 無変換 and 変換 came from modern ...
- 02 May 2021, 20:20
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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As someone who also uses a heavily personalized JIS layout and is very much looking forward to the JIS keys, here's my opinion. I'm not Japanese, but have lived here for quite a few years and need to make use of Japanese input every day for work and whatnot.
I'd prefer row 1 to keep the alt ...
- 02 May 2021, 19:33
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Nice to meet you. This is my first time to use deskthority. I'm using a translation app to communicate with you, so my English may be a little off.
I'm Japanese, and I'm familiar with Japanese keyboards and fonts; the Model M that IBM manufactured for Japan is called 5576-c01, and the font used ...
- 23 Apr 2021, 19:51
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Yes confirmed, I hope to offer the beam spring type, beam spring apl type layouts for the new Model F keys as well as regular APL (both light orange and red variations) and JIS.
Zed has also just added the 1U Mac keys requested and color options for the keys (see the extra keys page on the ...
- 23 Apr 2021, 14:13
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Ellipse has mentioned that he wants to do this but I don't think it's been announced anywhere so I hope it's OK to post this.
F Beam.png
I have no idea if this is practical and I haven't even brought this up with Ellipse so don't get too excited for this one. Still very much a WIP as well.
F ...
- 22 Apr 2021, 00:11
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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We need to get this made
Ellipse has mentioned that he wants to do this but I don't think it's been announced anywhere so I hope it's OK to post this.
F Beam.png
I have no idea if this is practical and I haven't even brought this up with Ellipse so don't get too excited for this one ...
- 21 Apr 2021, 22:30
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Would it be possible to sneak in a 1u control symbol ("^") and a 1u Mac command symbol ("⌘")? I would love to have a couple of each in pebble.
No problems from my end if Ellipse says it's OK. Obviously the current factory has much more flexibility as witnessed by the additions of Czech and ...
- 21 Apr 2021, 17:09
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Would it be possible to sneak in a 1u control symbol ("^") and a 1u Mac command symbol ("⌘")? I would love to have a couple of each in pebble.
No problems from my end if Ellipse says it's OK. Obviously the current factory has much more flexibility as witnessed by the additions of Czech and Thai ...
- 21 Apr 2021, 01:29
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Are there any plans for a Thai sublegends set? A Model F with Thai keycaps exists, but is incredibly rare.
https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20365
https://i.imgur.com/qzkRwhQ.jpg
That would be a yes if you are interested in ordering one. :lol:
High quality Thai ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 21:56
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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If front printing was possible, having them in the correct position (as in the kbdcz layout scheme) would be cool. Or on the cap itself like the Ms had it, that would work as well.
(edit: Sorry for complicating this so much, this is way deeper than I assumed.)
Although IBM used front printing ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 21:32
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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OK, so my conundrum is: Do I go IBM historically accurate, or with keycaps that correspond to the actual keypresses in Windows?
Right now I'm using this board, which has a Tai Hao blue set and the yellowed caps are swapped from an old Czech Ortek. (ignore that it's ANSI and QWERTY)
I actually ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 20:47
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Oh wow, that goes in depth. I don't really use layers beyond shift, so I don't have an opinion on that.
(and tbh, whoever wrote that is pretty judgy, I would NOT want to use their "fixed Czech" layout)
We definitely prefer QWERTZ.
I originally ordered (UK) ISO with a split right Shift, so that'd ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 20:42
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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At this point additional language sets are now possible - this was not the case before. Zed is working on Model F quality APL and JIS sets too!
OK to add Czech as an option if Zed is up to creating it and if someone wants it!
Please do post here if you would personally like to order any other ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 19:59
- Forum: Group buys
- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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At this point additional language sets are now possible - this was not the case before. Zed is working on Model F quality APL and JIS sets too!
OK to add Czech as an option if Zed is up to creating it and if someone wants it!
Please do post here if you would personally like to order any ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 19:46
- Forum: Group buys
- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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How does this looks for handling the HHKB ISO sets? Any set can be ordered regardless of which language you have. Italian is still under review If anyone wants to comment.
- 20 Apr 2021, 18:16
- Forum: Group buys
- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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At this point additional language sets are now possible - this was not the case before. Zed is working on Model F quality APL and JIS sets too!
OK to add Czech as an option if Zed is up to creating it and if someone wants it!
Please do post here if you would personally like to order any other ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 18:10
- Forum: Group buys
- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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My hunch would be to go with the icon as the main keycap and "Verr Maj" as the alternate one on the French (France) layout, and keep "Fix Maj" in the French Canadian layout (if that one gets done later).
French customers please chime in!
French HHKB options.png
I vote for the text ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 15:01
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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My latest thoughts were to go with this since "Verr Maj" has only been found on French Canadian boards but I can go either way:
My hunch would be to go with the icon as the main keycap and "Verr Maj" as the alternate one on the French (France) layout, and keep "Fix Maj" in the French ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 14:29
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The IBM documents I have been working from (Model M era) have English legends for the Swiss French & German but Swiss German uses all the German modifiers.
1395888_102_Key_Swiss_German.pdf
This are what the Swiss sets currently looks like:
Swiss German.png
Swiss French_German v16.png
I'm ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 14:19
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- Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Spanish keyboards (both layouts) use "Bloq Mayús", so the abbrev "Bloc Maius" would be the logical thing (not necessarily the correct one) to do.
I'm leaning towards just going with the padlock icon for the French and Italian sets with the German style ⇩ for Swiss German. It seems like a ...
- 20 Apr 2021, 14:12
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Wise choice (but DO remember the Swiss don't use the eszett). :mrgreen:
I was not aware. Two years of High School German did not get to the differences in Swiss dialects! So 1.5U "Caps Lock" and 1.75U "Strg" as they are in the currently posted pics then? Any Swiss German customers care to ...
- 19 Apr 2021, 20:00
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Just to open a further can of worms, what do you guys think of my "Blocco maiuscole" on the Italian sets? It's a Google translate with no precedence that I have seen.
Spanish keyboards (both layouts) use "Bloq Mayús", so the abbrev "Bloc Maius" would be the logical thing (not necessarily ...
- 19 Apr 2021, 19:27
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I wanted to make the bottom row consistent and do a text legend and Google translate claims that 'Caps Lock' is proper German.
I haven't seen any French (France) Model M keyboards with anything other than the icon on Caps Lock. French Canadian units, on the other hand, use "Fix Maj".
Yes ...