Reddit keyboard horror!
I cannot really follow you. Here are three group buys with different sizes and the prices are fairly similar for what you get. The price difference between 60% and full-size is about 40 more switches (which are like 20ct each if you go with Cherry switches, maybe up to 40$ in total if you use overpriced clones) and you need a numpad keycap set (which gmk sets have included and which is roughly 25$ more with SP sets). I cannot see why you shouldn't go with your prefered layout when you already spend that much money.zrrion wrote: if I'm gonna build a keyboard 60% at 500 a full-sized keyboard is going to be even more! Not something I want to shell out for when a good vintage full-sized board is a fraction of that. I will say that it helps that a 60% puts the alpha block in the center of the desk which is more comfortable. the form factor has multiple advantages. I feel like price is a pretty big draw. (the hhkb is expensive because topre)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96648.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93572.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97531.0
And topre itself doesn't have to be expensive, the Novatouch sold for a bit over 100€ when it was still produced. But people still bought the hhkb.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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The NovaTouch had serious issues. All down to its ginger haired stepchild status stuck between CM and Topre’s responsibility. It was not the low cost Topre anyone was looking for. Not with all that clatter.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Apparently it means "boils", as in "it is boiling".Slom wrote: keeb? keeb. keeb! KEEB!!111!
Whats wrong with estonian boiled food?
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/keeb
I think the "ee" is a long "eh"/ë, not like English "ie". (if Estonian is like Finnish in this matter, which I know is its closest relative)
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Small vintage mechs exist. Like the Wyse WY-30. Also comes with doubleshot keycaps that would be very expensive if you bought them new from Signature Plastics nowadays.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0166
model m is shit, prove me wrongElrick wrote:"Just a Model-M", what supreme and petty ignorance.
Every time I see another post about the Model-M being worthless and insignificant, I need to reach for my AR-15 and climb a church steeple for some retribution.
Typical blasphemy such as that deserves the maximum punishment, from every IBM Model-M keyboard collector/user.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Great keyfeel, great noise, ~$100 for a completely new one. Other new fullsize mechs that price are mostly RGB junk or a barebones Cherry G80 without a backplate.mike52787 wrote:model m is shit, prove me wrongElrick wrote:"Just a Model-M", what supreme and petty ignorance.
Every time I see another post about the Model-M being worthless and insignificant, I need to reach for my AR-15 and climb a church steeple for some retribution.
Typical blasphemy such as that deserves the maximum punishment, from every IBM Model-M keyboard collector/user.
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
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I've defecated all kinds of things, but never have I shitted out a buckling spring. QEDmike52787 wrote:model m is shit, prove me wrongElrick wrote:"Just a Model-M", what supreme and petty ignorance.
Every time I see another post about the Model-M being worthless and insignificant, I need to reach for my AR-15 and climb a church steeple for some retribution.
Typical blasphemy such as that deserves the maximum punishment, from every IBM Model-M keyboard collector/user.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0166
meh... keyfeel is a quite subjective factor so I'll leave that out... but im not a fan
noise? no thanks
And in my opinion there aren't any "good" keyboards under $100.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
But for what you get, a new Unicomp Model M is pretty good. Dye sublimated keycaps, a bit sloppy but still dye sublimated. A noise that isn't cheap and rattly like MX Blues, but full, and not too harsh. More like a ringing click.
Again you can disagree with me since this is 100 percent subjective, and I hate mx blues, but honestly I think model m sounds even worse than blues. The ping-thunk is so shrill and awful to my earsabrahamstechnology wrote:But for what you get, a new Unicomp Model M is pretty good. Dye sublimated keycaps, a bit sloppy but still dye sublimated. A noise that isn't cheap and rattly like MX Blues, but full, and not too harsh. More like a ringing click.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
In my opinion, ping gives switches more character. Just a click sounds boring and more dead in comparison.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0166
Definitely gonna have to disagree there. I can't stand spring ping, especially on alps and BS. Back when I still had a model f It was floss modded, and I have lubed the springs lf my skcl browns and skcm blues. IMNSHO blue alps (in a nice plastic backed chassis) are the only clicky switches with a decent sound.
- Quartz64
- Location: Russia
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Contoured (Kailh Box Black, Koala)
- Main mouse: Elecom Huge
- Favorite switch: Durock Koala
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My apologies to all of you who think that modding any Model M is an act of barbaric blasphemy. I have some excuses though:
- I wanted to destroy something beautiful.
- It wasn't rare Model M. Not 1st gen, not industrial, etc. Just ususal 1996 made by Lexmark.
- Right-top part of the case had some visible scratches.
- It had two faulty pads on the nav cluster. Separate order for the new membrane from Unicomp is too costly.
- It's not possible with Unicomp. At least without a tricky patching with copper tape.
- vometia
- irritant
- Location: Somewhere in England
- Main keyboard: Durrr-God with fancy keycaps
- Main mouse: Roccat Malarky
- Favorite switch: Avocent Thingy
- DT Pro Member: 0184
That is a very nice clean-up job of an especially filthy keyboard. Not sure about the banana mod though. But I really need to figure out bolt-modding; or how to get someone else to do it for me.Quartz64 wrote: To atone for my sin, I've preventively repaired about 15 Model M 101/102 and 122 keyboards including that one.
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Anyway, I think the mini-M is cute and it's a nicely-executed mod.
- Scarpia
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: F77 / Alps SKCM Brown TKL
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Anywhere 2
- Favorite switch: Capacitive BS, Alps SKCM Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0223
I like it too, very cleanly done, maybe not the best color scheme but to each his own.
And the normal model m is not even remotely rare, remember they made millions of them and they’re damn near indestructible... which is of course one of the things we Dweebs With Keebs like about them.
And the normal model m is not even remotely rare, remember they made millions of them and they’re damn near indestructible... which is of course one of the things we Dweebs With Keebs like about them.
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I like it a lot! This would be my perfect M honestly. The arrow keys are a different matter though..
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- Location: U.S.A.
- Main keyboard: Rubber dome trash IBM KB-0225
- Main mouse: Microsoft P/N X802652
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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I don't understand what the big problem is, it was just a 1990s model. It doesn't have the same quality as the 1980s Model Ms, and even then I would only consider the non PC/AT protocol or nonstandard colored Model Ms to be rare.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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