Future of DT

[DMA]

I'd buy just for the sheer pleasure of banning Ellipse

[DMA]

That little X button is getting quite the workout again this morning. Our man in Pakistan is on a bender.

Just think of all his effort registering new accounts, picking a place to post or starting a new thread, pasting in his payload links—which he presumably has to manage to some extent as well—then finally hit Submit on the post.

And then I click X.

All of it is solvable by simply disabling hyperlinks being hyperlinks. $15k? So, less than a cost of one class 103 mold? I'm mostly worried about MRC here, but again, for the sheer pleasure of banning Ellipse, where do I sign?

[wobbled]

I'd buy just for the sheer pleasure of banning Ellipse

I think we've found our next leader

[Muirium]

Just needs to cough up the cash, right? Imagine what we could do here if we had an admin again? The occasional security update! Maybe even freshen up those headers. Radical stuff.

[ifohancroft]

Just needs to cough up the cash, right? Imagine what we could do here if we had an admin again? The occasional security update! Maybe even freshen up those headers. Radical stuff.

And I'd happily develop plugins and modules for phpBB for here. Especially for the couple of suggestions I have for improving the user experience.

[thefarside]

I’d love a dark mode.

[Muirium]

Dark mode is essential.

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That’s using the Noir extension in Safari. But I’ve been on the dark side for quite a while now.

[thefarside]

Thanks Mu! I got the extension and it looks perfect now.

[DMA]

Seriously though - who do I talk to and what amounts we're talking about? I do have some cash on hand - which I plan to use for certain injection molding parts, but I still have job so there will be more.

[tactica]

keyboardjoy is the person/user account you want to ask. You may reach him faster through the discord channel, username to look for is "felotus".

[zrrion]

keyboard joy doesn't have anything to do w/ DT anymore and he's not the same person as felotus. They're "felotus_" on discord.

[tactica]

Dunno why this whole situation reminds me more and more of the M$ operation to destroy Nokia from inside.

[depletedvespene]

Dark mode is essential.

Essential if you wanna go blind.

Albeit, that particular dark mode looks rather better than many other "dark modes" that are, frankly, a sin. I mean, who in his/her/their/its right mind thought that "mid-gray text on a slightly brownish dark gray background" would be easy to read?

[thefarside]

I bought Noir and love it! But I like everything dark in low light places and at night. I think it does a perfect job on Deskthority.

I’ve found that dark mode seems to be a generational thing where I work. Older folks aren’t a fan but the younger people love it.

[depletedvespene]

I bought Noir and love it! But I like everything dark in low light places and at night. I think it does a perfect job on Deskthority.

I’ve found that dark mode seems to be a generational thing where I work. Older folks aren’t a fan but the younger people love it.

Thing is, they don't know what a REAL "dark mode" is.

Discord ("dark mode") and a REAL white-on-black text window.

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[xxhellfirexx]

Thing is, they don't know what a REAL "dark mode" is.

Some apps have a dark mode (dark grey) and an AMOLED dark mode (black). Dark grey themes are preferable because grey to grey transitions are faster and less smeary than white to black.

[depletedvespene]

Thing is, they don't know what a REAL "dark mode" is.

Some apps have a dark mode (dark grey) and an AMOLED dark mode (black). Dark grey themes are preferable because grey to grey transitions are faster and less smeary than white to black.

The monitor's (paper's, whatever's) convenience should be secondary to the user's convenience. In my experience, text in those "dark" (dark gray) modes is generally harder and more fatiguing to read, due to the pointlessly reduced difference between background and foreground.

I suspect this is nothing but a repetition of the "black or mid-gray letters on the white screen" arguments I had 20+ years ago with the web developers when I worked at the Green Mud Bank. They could not understand that while mid-gray text might look better when eye-scanning the page as a whole (a subjective take I didn't agree with in the first place), the customer needed to READ what was on screen, not scan, and their bad choice of color degraded the user experience (to say nothing of disclaimers, always written with a stupidly small font for no good reason).

[xxhellfirexx]

I suspect this is nothing but a repetition of the "black or mid-gray letters on the white screen" arguments I had 20+ years ago with the web developers when I worked at the Green Mud Bank. They could not understand that while mid-gray text might look better when eye-scanning the page as a whole (a subjective take I didn't agree with in the first place), the customer needed to READ what was on screen, not scan, and their bad choice of color degraded the user experience (to say nothing of disclaimers, always written with a stupidly small font for no good reason).

I think it is striking a balance between too little contrast and too much contrast. Both situations can make text harder to read and may cause eye strain. In fact, the text on this forum is not black, but dark grey (#333333).

To improve scanning, that is more affected by the content structure. For example by using headings, lists, and bolding the main points.

[DMA]

@depletedvespene dark mode isn't for normal people - it's for people with light sensitivity. When my light sensitivity flares up - basically everything above #808080 burns my eyes. When you say about "light gray on dark gray" - you probably refer to "solarized" color palette, which is an abomination indeed.
But dark mode as in "gray on black" or "colors on dark gray" is a life saver.

[idollar]

Hello,

I know that I am not very active in the forum, but I really believe that loosing the knowledge contained in these pages will be a pity.

I do not like the idea on contributing to ensure that others (i.e. ellipse) own the site. I have no problem on him making money selling keyboards, but since years he has been gathering ideas and support from the members, and to my best knowledge, he does not share the benefits. He is running a business supported by the Desthority, a non-profit forum. I wonder what would happen if he would take over.

I also find "interesting" that he announces his business in the "Group Buy" when he is actually a "vendor". In my opinion, he has been using this site as a "marketing tool" too often.

I would have no problem to support the maintenance of Deskthority provided that the community manages it.

In the meanwhile, I would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and work.

Thanks a lot !

i$

[Ellipse]

Here is an interesting article discussing how most forum discussion has moved to reddit and discord. An interesting read. I definitely prefer the organization and design of the sites like Deskthority and geekhack over the other forum sites as they are far more challenging to navigate and organize long-term information and topics.

https://www-xataka-com.translate.goog/s ... r_pto=wapp

[soyuz]

The tracking cookies and datamining have begun. lol.

[yaun]

It’s been a while since I’ve been here. I couldn’t help notice a gigantic overlay thing asking for permission to do stuff I don’t need or like. It’s new, and it’s beyond annoying. I have to undo several checkboxes saying something about legitimate interest. BS. Not that I have been around here a lot, but if that insulting impudance (i.e. selling peoples data to the whole world and make it look unquestionable or even important) persists, DT is finally dead for me.

[DMA]

overlay? I'm wondering how you people survive without adblock today (or even 10 years ago).

In other news - I've got no answers from @keyboardjoy or on discord.

[yaun]

I am using uBlock Origin, but this is an overlay for cookies, which is needed, if you do what DT does. See attachement.

I just noticed that in the screenshot the text in the background is not blurred, like it appears in the browser.

[DMA]

Ah. For that one - thank your German Government. Would you prefer to be geo-blocked instead?

[yaun]

Well, “my German government” is not the problem. Being geo-blocked may be the only alternative in your imagination. Another one would be for DT not use those intrusive services of 881 (!) “partners”, just to make money out of my private data*. DT ist the problem. I said that a few posts above, still seems to be beyond your ken.

*And yours btw, you’re just not being asked to opt out, which is a lie anyway.

[DMA]

@yaun why so Sirius?

I was saying that those annoying popups are courtesy of GDPR compliance (and this being in German hints there might be additional German laws). Several options there, generally: 1) block european IP space (whole RIPE, for the ease of maintenance), 2) implement (probably via installing a plugin) compliance popups, 3) have session id in the URL and not use cookies at all (smells like JSP from the nineties).

I don't see any popups - there are probably banners all around here too, but adblock keeps those at bay. Re: "your private data" - get hired to MANGA and observe first hand how laughable it all is. Yeah, "senator we sell ads" - but whole ads business has a huge "don't ask don't tell" component, and that component is "what you can actually infer from that data and who you _really_ show my banners to?". Because should anybody seriously ask those questions - dotcom bust and 2008 will be peanuts in comparison to the magnitude of the market crash

[Ellipse]

I just received a message reporting about Deskthority servers being flagged, resulting in emails with a Deskthority.net link being blocked.

"I checked our email security gateway, Barracuda, and found that the Deskthority.net URL that you attached was flagged as high risk. One or more of their servers may be on a block list somewhere or flagged for spam."

[thefarside]

It also appears the off topic section is getting spammed.