Bottoming out
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I'm curious as to how many of you bottom out the keys when you type. I have a leopold tenkeyless with mx brown switches on the way and I have read in some threads that it takes awhile to be able to type on the brown switches without bottoming out. I understand the tactile feedback that the brown switches give, but I have always used a rubber dome keyboard so the idea of not bottoming out while typing at a decent speed seems very strange to me.
Also, this is my first post ever, and I'm fairly new to mechanical keyboards.
Also, this is my first post ever, and I'm fairly new to mechanical keyboards.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
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Yes, all the time! The difference is that I don't have to focus on smashing down the keys for them to register like you have to on a rupperdome. I just type and let nature stop me. I do the same when playing the bass; the 5th string is great as a fingerstopper, and I play much slower on that string which doesn't have one above.
- Gilgam
- Location: france
- Main keyboard: Too many
- Main mouse: CST trakball
- Favorite switch: red ?, maybe topre, well no, black... Or brown???
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I nearly don't bottom out on reds and browns, and it was easier on clears, blacks and blues.
But when you type fast you will bottom out much more.
Type fast and loud (well not so much) or slower and quieter.
But every time i go back to a rubber dome (logitech internet xxxxx) my fingers hurt
But when you type fast you will bottom out much more.
Type fast and loud (well not so much) or slower and quieter.
But every time i go back to a rubber dome (logitech internet xxxxx) my fingers hurt
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Thanks for the replies! I have to admit I am a little nervous about the MX Brown switches. When researching the various Cherry switches I concluded that brown was well liked by people who played games and typed essays. It wasn't until I found this site that I saw some hate for the Brown Switches. People are calling them too light, and some are not impressed by the weak tactile feedback they experienced with them.
Nonetheless I'm sure it will be a substantial upgrade from my rubber dome keyboard. And I have typed on MX Blues so hopefully the browns feel like I expect them to.
Nonetheless I'm sure it will be a substantial upgrade from my rubber dome keyboard. And I have typed on MX Blues so hopefully the browns feel like I expect them to.
- Gilgam
- Location: france
- Main keyboard: Too many
- Main mouse: CST trakball
- Favorite switch: red ?, maybe topre, well no, black... Or brown???
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from my small personnal experience i begun from blacks, i loved them, then tried the blues (too noisy), and found the holly graal as the Ghetto red (black stem and blue springs). I really love them, i tested the red switches. I like them too but they feel different.
Now i feel the blacks are too stiff... But it took me months to type without bottoming out.
Now i feel the blacks are too stiff... But it took me months to type without bottoming out.
- Half-Saint
- Location: Slovenia, Europe
- Main keyboard: Raptor Gaming K1
- Main mouse: Logitech G5 Mk.2
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue
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I bottom out all the time. It's a hard habit to break
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- Location: Lille, France
- Main keyboard: Filco tenkeyless brown
- Main mouse: Razer Diamondback
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
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I have a FIlco with browns at work. I find that typing with earphones and music helps focus on the tactile bump of each key.
- Gilgam
- Location: france
- Main keyboard: Too many
- Main mouse: CST trakball
- Favorite switch: red ?, maybe topre, well no, black... Or brown???
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Browns and clears are easier if you don"t want to bottom out. The tactile feeling helps a lot. Then muscles memory does the job.
Maybe i sohould see a doctor
When sometimes, in time of weakness, i allow some people to use my keyboard, they bottom out so loud that i can feel the pain...Half-Saint wrote:I bottom out all the time. It's a hard habit to break
Maybe i sohould see a doctor
- zoidbergslo
- Location: Slovenia
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 2
- Main mouse: Logitech G600
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Brown
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Nah. Just don't let others near your computer.
- Half-Saint
- Location: Slovenia, Europe
- Main keyboard: Raptor Gaming K1
- Main mouse: Logitech G5 Mk.2
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue
- DT Pro Member: 0058
...or take an aspirin
- amasokin
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 2 TKL MX Red
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder Black
- Favorite switch: MX Red
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I just switched to mechanical keyboards with a Filco Majestouch 2 with MX Brown a few days ago, and I don't understand how you DON'T bottom out. I just can't stop before bottoming out (not too loudly though). Always used rubber dome keyboards before that. I really need to train myself and try to improve this.
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- Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Freestyle Pro
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Browns
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I'm off and on in the bottoming out department. When I spend a lot of time with one board I can do ok if I try to not bottom out (or at least not bottom out too badly), but I find when switching boards frequently it's more difficult to get the feel of each individual board -- or course most of my boards have different switches which I imagine doesn't make things easier.
While not bottoming out does feel a little easier on the fingers, I find it can slow me down. When I get going really fast I find I bottom out a a bit more .. but I think that's just the reaction of many years on rubber domes and over time that may change.
While not bottoming out does feel a little easier on the fingers, I find it can slow me down. When I get going really fast I find I bottom out a a bit more .. but I think that's just the reaction of many years on rubber domes and over time that may change.
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- Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Freestyle Pro
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Browns
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Oh, I also did the O-ring mod to a couple of my main boards and it made a big difference for me ... I don't care as much about bottoming out now. THere's also varying degrees of bottoming out ... there's the "lightly hit the bottom" (which is what I do most times) and there's the "jackhammer this switch into the desk" bottoming out (which I've never done). My wife falls into the latter category. I can hear here typing two floors down in our house sometimes.
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- Location: near Kassel, Germany
- Main keyboard: Logitech illuminated
- Main mouse: Razer Diamond Back 3G
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I bottom out most of the time but who cares ? It doens't matter whether I bottom out or not . So keep it up and have fun with the mechanical keyboard and stop thinking of bottoming out or not.
- sordna
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage LF / Dvorak layout
- Main mouse: Logitech M500
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Red
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I don't think about it too much, but having o-rings helps make bottoming out much more comfortable. WASD Keyboards 40A durometer o-rings are really very nice.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Ducky Mini with blues and GH60 keycap set.
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1 Evo
- Favorite switch: Really not sure :D
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Having only recently moved to a mechanical keyboard, I'm pretty sure I bottom out, is there anything actually bad about doing it (apart from sound/'techinique') will it damage the keys/switches?