IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

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keycap

09 Oct 2024, 01:03

amigastar23 wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 00:31
thefarside wrote:
08 May 2024, 14:25
Looks like blue alps! I have the same discoloration in the stems as you do:
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They look rather like Monterey Alps Switches to me.
Monterey switches have a perfectly rectangular stem and it's quite thinner in comparison. Those are SKCM Blue.

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TNT

10 Oct 2024, 13:26


Abb0

11 Oct 2024, 16:50

Hello everyone,

I found this keyboard alone without a console/computer. Does anyone know what it is? Thank you
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nac5605

14 Oct 2024, 04:48

Does anyone know what this is, or at least what switches it uses? To me it looks to be some variant of F/Fs or domes.

The keyboard has no ID or serial number on the outside, and the seller has no idea what it is besides the obvious Harris manufacturer.

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The Keyboard Oracle
The Answer Lies Within The Question

15 Oct 2024, 17:51

The Harris Challenger Information Display System.

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OleVoip

17 Oct 2024, 10:23

No, I reckon it's another Siemens switch, which Siemens used especially for text systems before the introduction of the STB family, cf. This post, type nr. 2, viewtopic.php?p=330697#p330697

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Leshe

27 Oct 2024, 22:52

Just spotted this fella on Facebook marketplace, does anyone recognize the computer or if there is any way to confirm the model? I've read that kb-101s and 6010s are pretty much identical
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Findecanor

27 Oct 2024, 23:04

Leshe wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 22:52
does anyone recognize the computer or if there is any way to confirm the model?
I think the label says "CLONE" in red letters with the N and E being a ligature.
The text below that is harder to see, but I read it as "TUENG PC".

The thing to look for is an IBM PC clone case that has the label in the exact same position and size. Apparently, that variety is not too common.

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Polecat

27 Oct 2024, 23:49

"Turbo PC". Generic term, probably just meant the motherboard had a 6 MHz or 8MHz mode, instead of the base 4,77. Might not be branded at all. Many XT clones were built from generic parts, either by the dealer or owner.

Keyboard could be a KB-102A or KB-102AS, or 6012 (all Alps), or a 6312 or 6512 (Acer slider-over-something). Upper cases were interchangeable. Need to see the label.

edited to correct 101A/101AS to 102A/102AS
Findecanor wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:04
Leshe wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 22:52
does anyone recognize the computer or if there is any way to confirm the model?
I think the label says "CLONE" in red letters with the N and E being a ligature.
The text below that is harder to see, but I read it as "TUENG PC".

The thing to look for is an IBM PC clone case that has the label in the exact same position and size. Apparently, that variety is not too common.
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keycap

27 Oct 2024, 23:50

Label says Clone Turbo PC. At least they're pretty straight forward with admitting they're a clone! But yes, one of many PC XT clones of the time. Acer has nothing to do with it, just happened to find its way to being paired with this system. As always, if it can come with blue alps, don't be surprised if it actually has white alps.

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Dan

31 Oct 2024, 12:31

Anyone knows what kind of switches the Triumph Adler Twen 180 plus typewriter uses? Found it at a thrift store, but i couldn't look underneath the caps to see for myself... They felt nice when pushed, linear mechanical, but i'm not sure what exactly.
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Findecanor

01 Nov 2024, 09:55

Dan wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 12:31
Anyone knows what kind of switches the Triumph Adler Twen 180 plus typewriter uses? Found it at a thrift store, but i couldn't look underneath the caps to see for myself... They felt nice when pushed, linear mechanical, but i'm not sure what exactly.
There is a list in the Wiki, where it is listed as having "membrane switches", based on a conversation with a German distributor of TA typewriters.
I suppose that could be some kind of spring-over-membrane switch: different types were common on mechanical typewriters.

AFAIK, Triumph-Adler typewriters with Cherry switches and grey keys had Cherry-profile keycaps, which this doesn't.

AndyJ

01 Nov 2024, 18:46

keycap wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:50
Label says Clone Turbo PC. At least they're pretty straight forward with admitting they're a clone!
I *think* I remember a company with that name advertising in Computer Shopper (the US one) back in the 1980s. That was back when not all machines were completely IBM-compatible, usually due to BIOS or minor hardware issues. Their ads promoted "clone" in relation to their IBM compatibility. Back then IBM compatibility wasn't necessarily a given; DEC, Compaq, and HP, among others, had their little quirks that caused problems with off-the-shelf commercial software.

Programmers used some *weird* hacks back in those days. I remember trying to install a word processor on my turbo AT, and the installer announced that since I was using an 84-key keyboard my machine didn't have enough cojones to run their program; installation aborted.

Funnily enough, I'm on that same keyboard typing this, more than 35 years later, on an out-of-date desktop with more horsepower than most supercomputers back then.

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Dan

04 Nov 2024, 19:40

Findecanor wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 09:55
There is a list in the Wiki, where it is listed as having "membrane switches", based on a conversation with a German distributor of TA typewriters.
I suppose that could be some kind of spring-over-membrane switch: different types were common on mechanical typewriters.

AFAIK, Triumph-Adler typewriters with Cherry switches and grey keys had Cherry-profile keycaps, which this doesn't.
For some reason, the wiki isn't working for me on Chrome, only on FF. And on FF, the wiki search function doesn't work and i gave up. Thanks for the info.

Findecanor

04 Nov 2024, 20:00

Dan wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:40
Findecanor wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 09:55
There is a list in the Wiki, where it is listed as having "membrane switches", based on a conversation with a German distributor of TA typewriters.
I suppose that could be some kind of spring-over-membrane switch: different types were common on mechanical typewriters.

AFAIK, Triumph-Adler typewriters with Cherry switches and grey keys had Cherry-profile keycaps, which this doesn't.
For some reason, the wiki isn't working for me on Chrome, only on FF. And on FF, the wiki search function doesn't work and i gave up. Thanks for the info.
Yes. The site has some serious problems now... The wiki works for me in Chromium in private browsing though, except for login, edit and search ...

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