IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

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emdude
Model M Apologist

19 Feb 2017, 21:48

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The inverted color scheme makes me think Commodore (with Mitsumi, Cherry MX switches, or maybe something else) but I have no clue otherwise.

atrere

20 Feb 2017, 07:22

Okay, so I'm figuring this is SKBM, but... uh... I think pictures will speak far more than words in this case. There's some very weird stuff going on here.
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I've heard of one kind of Omnikey clone, but never this... and in black? What in the sweetest of hells is going on? I'm pretty tempted to get this just to find out... even if supposedly, it doesn't work without some proprietary software.

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ohaimark
Kingpin

20 Feb 2017, 07:31

I don't think this is an Omnikey clone. It almost certainly has Alps clones, as it appears to have been released around '93.

I recommend picking them up. They look fun -- all those redundant function keys. hah

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Chyros

20 Feb 2017, 13:02

I haven't got a clue what that it, but it looks fantastic!

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Touch_It

20 Feb 2017, 16:35

http://edsgoodstuff.com/edscart/index.p ... ts_id=1584
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I know its not a model M, but no idea what it is. Guessing something crappy but curious.

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XMIT
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20 Feb 2017, 16:42

Touch_It wrote: I know its not a model M, but no idea what it is. Guessing something crappy but curious.
The FTxx code on the back of the keyboard (in this case FT15) tells you this one is foam and foil.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 17:13

emdude wrote: Image

The inverted color scheme makes me think Commodore (with Mitsumi, Cherry MX switches, or maybe something else) but I have no clue otherwise.
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cumwagondeluxe

20 Feb 2017, 18:47

Anyone know what switches these are?
http://naito-pa.life.coocan.jp/blog/HP/oya6.jpg

Look kind of like Peerless, but the mount is different as well as some other details. I wonder if the keycaps from these are topre compatible? The blog I dug that up from seems to indicate that it's a rubberdome style switch, and he talks about needing to apply silicon oil to them so that they don't feel too bad after prolonged use or age..

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ohaimark
Kingpin

20 Feb 2017, 18:52

Fujitsu linear Gen. 3 or Fujitsu linear spring over membrane. They're typically quite smooth, so his must have been poorly kept or unlubed from the factory.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 18:55

ohaimark wrote: Fujitsu linear Gen. 3 or Fujitsu linear spring over membrane. They're typically quite smooth, so his must have been poorly kept or unlubed from the factory.
That's right, Fujitsu Leaf Spring Gen. 3 is just about the exact opposite of Peerless in terms of smoothness.

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Chyros

20 Feb 2017, 19:59

FLS is super smooth. Heavily used ones bind a bit, but they shouldn't feel scratchy at all, even if dirty. Shouldn't be lubed though; I suspect that will make them worse.

cumwagondeluxe

20 Feb 2017, 20:23

If you guys are curious, this is the blog entry I was talking about:
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/bongore789/e/dd5f ... 1027e47b22

There's a couple of the boards up on y!jp for fairly cheap, kind of tempted to grab one now that I know it's FLS

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 21:16

Chyros wrote: FLS is super smooth. Heavily used ones bind a bit, but they shouldn't feel scratchy at all, even if dirty. Shouldn't be lubed though; I suspect that will make them worse.
Agreed, there is ablosutely no reason to use lube on FLS 3rd gen switches, would be quite silly to do so.
cumwagondeluxe wrote: There's a couple of the boards up on y!jp for fairly cheap, kind of tempted to grab one now that I know it's FLS
I can't see any price but if it's worth it to you sure. I mean I love the way this looks, the layout alone...
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ohaimark
Kingpin

20 Feb 2017, 21:32

It may be Fujitsu leaf spring over membrane. Don't discount that possibility.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 21:41

ohaimark wrote: It may be Fujitsu leaf spring over membrane. Don't discount that possibility.
Yes true, thanks for reminding. Actually looking at that keyboard it would not suprise me as it looks "younger".

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Harshmallow

20 Feb 2017, 21:44

Lynx_Carpathica wrote:
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: Doh, pad printing with selective image coating.

Seeing it more closely, I'm now pretty certain actually it is a Chicony KB-5181.
What do you think? Is it PCB Mount? I see it as a brownisch sheet of idk what. PCB or Metal Mingplate.
My Chicony KB-5181 has a black plate with SMK 'Monterey' Blues mounted in it. Fantastic switches...flimsy feeling case. But the whole thing is in very good condition, so I still very much enjoy typing on it.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 21:55

Harshmallow wrote:
Lynx_Carpathica wrote:
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: Doh, pad printing with selective image coating.

Seeing it more closely, I'm now pretty certain actually it is a Chicony KB-5181.
What do you think? Is it PCB Mount? I see it as a brownisch sheet of idk what. PCB or Metal Mingplate.
My Chicony KB-5181 has a black plate with SMK 'Monterey' Blues mounted in it. Fantastic switches...flimsy feeling case. But the whole thing is in very good condition, so I still very much enjoy typing on it.
I know what you mean, I love SMK Alps mount. ;)

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Wodan
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21 Feb 2017, 10:55

Saw this link for a Chicony:
http://allegro.pl/klawiatura-mechaniczn ... 25507.html

What Cherry Clone is that?
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ohaimark
Kingpin

21 Feb 2017, 15:22

I have no idea. :shock:

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Daniel Beardsmore

21 Feb 2017, 18:47

Wodan wrote: Saw this link for a Chicony … What Cherry Clone is that?
[wiki]Taiwan white and black shaft[/wiki], either type 2B or 3 depending on the internals. Most likely made by Aristotle, as that's the only company Chicony remember using. (What we call Aristotle is type 6.)

manna

21 Feb 2017, 21:42

Do you guys know what kind of magnetic reader this is? The keyboard is a G80-1800. I don't know which model exactly since the label is unreadable
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Lynx_Carpathica

21 Feb 2017, 22:51

manna wrote: Do you guys know what kind of magnetic reader this is? The keyboard is a G80-1800. I don't know which model exactly since the label is unreadable
Did you get this from ebay? I have the exact same model with the reader, only with Black switches.

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Harshmallow

21 Feb 2017, 23:29

Daniel Beardsmore wrote:
Wodan wrote: Saw this link for a Chicony … What Cherry Clone is that?
[wiki]Taiwan white and black shaft[/wiki], either type 2B or 3 depending on the internals. Most likely made by Aristotle, as that's the only company Chicony remember using. (What we call Aristotle is type 6.)
Yeah that definitely looks exactly like the Aristotle housing in the Wiki picture (wiki/Aristotle_Cherry_MX_clone)...and that switch whore of a 5191/5192 board has been known to contain Aristotle switches.

manna

22 Feb 2017, 00:24

Lynx_Carpathica wrote:
manna wrote: Do you guys know what kind of magnetic reader this is? The keyboard is a G80-1800. I don't know which model exactly since the label is unreadable
Did you get this from ebay? I have the exact same model with the reader, only with Black switches.
Yes, some seller from Germany. Mine had Cherry mx black switches too, I just swapped stem and top casing with blue Gaterons

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mike52787
Alps Aficionado

22 Feb 2017, 16:34

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Identity-System ... fresh=true
Any ideas? looks like a chicony to me.

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emdude
Model M Apologist

22 Feb 2017, 16:37

I believe Harshmallow noted it looked like a Chicony KB-5181 in another thread.

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mike52787
Alps Aficionado

22 Feb 2017, 16:56

Oh, I didnt see that. I thank that's too much to pay for a 5181 anyway.

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Harshmallow

22 Feb 2017, 16:59

mike52787 wrote: Oh, I didnt see that. I thank that's too much to pay for a 5181 anyway.

Yeah it's almost certainly a 5181 - I have the same board at home. They're kinda fun - it's like gambling with switch types...or a box of chocolates as Forrest Gump would put it - ya never know whatcha gonna get! But I'd agree with you...not at that price. Make the seller an offer they can't refuse!

BTW, I'm surprised this Fujitsu leaf spring board is still here...at this price it seems like a fair deal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboar ... 1279473068

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ohaimark
Kingpin

22 Feb 2017, 17:09

I've seen them for cheaper. People avoid that particular variant because it's a pain to convert.

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Harshmallow

22 Feb 2017, 17:49

ohaimark wrote: I've seen them for cheaper. People avoid that particular variant because it's a pain to convert.
I see - I thought it might be AT/XT with that DIN plug in the photo, but I guess not. Just got confirmation that my Tandem has already shipped. It's the global shipping program, which might add an extra day, but I still tend to get boards between 3-5 business days to Toronto from the US.

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