Say good-bye to Cherry Clears...?
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
Better get these while you still can!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REFURBISHED-CHERRY- ... 439cc17a8f
He accepted my $45 offer. That's a lot of clear switches for $50. Great board to steal clears and doubleshots from!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REFURBISHED-CHERRY- ... 439cc17a8f
He accepted my $45 offer. That's a lot of clear switches for $50. Great board to steal clears and doubleshots from!
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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What's with the ISO Enter key on those?
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
It's an ISO layout. Does that answer your question?
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
No. Restating the obvious in a sarcastic way doesn't tend to be helpful.
But I was surprised to see the ISO enter key because it's a US-style keyboard. ISO usually finds its way onto European keyboards.
But I was surprised to see the ISO enter key because it's a US-style keyboard. ISO usually finds its way onto European keyboards.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
There are plenty of US ISO keyboards. Keytronic has a ton of 'em. Your question "What's with the ISO Enter key on those?" wasn't very specific, so I answered as best I could.
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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Oh. Sorry if I called your reply sarcastic then.
I've just never seen US ISO keyboards before.
I've just never seen US ISO keyboards before.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Nice! Good tip!keyboardlover wrote:Better get these while you still can!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REFURBISHED-CHERRY- ... 439cc17a8f
He accepted my $45 offer. That's a lot of clear switches for $50. Great board to steal clears and doubleshots from!
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Good price on those. Doubleshots too!
Shame those boards weight so much, I would actually grab a few otherwise. Maybe I should look up on SAL shipping again... last time I used SAL it took like 6 months to arrive, literally.
Shame those boards weight so much, I would actually grab a few otherwise. Maybe I should look up on SAL shipping again... last time I used SAL it took like 6 months to arrive, literally.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
Nice, see YOU guys appreciate the value of that board. I posted about it on GH and everybody was like "Lolwut?"
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
Cool, will do! What's Ro59?
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=14393
RO59 is apparently an American company, but the type you need for switches seems to be only sold in Japan, so I went through hasu and he helped me to get some (after he located those tiny bottles in a 100 yen shop). Since you are in the US, maybe just give RO59 a call and ask for "RO-59 KT". Maybe we can mass order a few gallons!
RO59 is apparently an American company, but the type you need for switches seems to be only sold in Japan, so I went through hasu and he helped me to get some (after he located those tiny bottles in a 100 yen shop). Since you are in the US, maybe just give RO59 a call and ask for "RO-59 KT". Maybe we can mass order a few gallons!
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
Oh ok cool...good to know. I'll contact them
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- Location: Hungary
- Main keyboard: Filco M2
- Main mouse: Razer abyssus
- Favorite switch: Modded Vintage Cherry MX blacks
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AFAIK asians use RO-59tm KT.
I made a topic on lubing cherry mx switches in the workshop section.
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=251
I made a topic on lubing cherry mx switches in the workshop section.
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=251
- microsoft windows
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Main mouse: IBM Model M5-2 Trackball Keyboard
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
120 keys, $45...that would go to about 37 cents every key switch, not to mention the double-shot keys as well.keyboardlover wrote:Nice, see YOU guys appreciate the value of that board. I posted about it on GH and everybody was like "Lolwut?"
I'd say it's not a bad deal at all.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
All they care about on GH is the damn Leopolds!
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- Location: Toronto
- Main keyboard: 75% with Vintage MX Blacks
- Main mouse: Logitech something
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Blacks
- DT Pro Member: -
Excuse my ignorance, but how does one make ghetto clears? Browns with different springs?kidchunks wrote:Time to start making them ghetto clears .
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
I believe it's a brown with the spring from a black switch, but I could be wrong...
- Mrinterface
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: UHK
- Main mouse: G203
- Favorite switch: Monterey blues
- DT Pro Member: 0012
I believe the spring from the black switch is not strong enough to emulate a cherry clear....keyboardlover wrote:I believe it's a brown with the spring from a black switch, but I could be wrong...
- kidchunks
- Main keyboard: HHKB all day everyday!
- Main mouse: L-Trac
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Ahwell, I'll try out the ghetto clears and compare it with my g80-8113. I figured it wouldn't be an exact feel but hopefully its close.
@burr: Do you have a picture like the one you posted comparing black stems to red stems?
@burr: Do you have a picture like the one you posted comparing black stems to red stems?
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- Location: Toronto
- Main keyboard: 75% with Vintage MX Blacks
- Main mouse: Logitech something
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Blacks
- DT Pro Member: -
I'd love to know how your experiment turns out.kidchunks wrote:Ahwell, I'll try out the ghetto clears and compare it with my g80-8113. I figured it wouldn't be an exact feel but hopefully its close.
@burr: Do you have a picture like the one you posted comparing black stems to red stems?
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
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Handy dandy spring/stem swap guide.
http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=127687&postcount=61
I carry a laminated version in my wallet.
http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=127687&postcount=61
I carry a laminated version in my wallet.
what? excellent tip if and only if you want to pay up to twenty or twenty five more dollars just f/ the switches. unless mine was modified, tampered w/, or swapped by/for - which it might have been - any board w/ g80-8113lcrus is likely to have clears. ebay member ncbound for instance has a board right at the moment w/ the same s/n ending in lcrus which comes w/ browns, or as the seller calls them: burgandy. he probably had a few drinks before listing the item. odd. a few weeks ago a similar board w/ same s/n may be found heresixty wrote:Good price on those. Doubleshots too!webwit wrote:Nice! Good tip!keyboardlover wrote:Better get these while you still can!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REFURBISHED-CHERRY- ... 439cc17a8f
He accepted my $45 offer. That's a lot of clear switches for $50. Great board to steal clears and doubleshots from!
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 0532029844 and oddly enough it has clear switches.
although any s/n w/ lrbus is a non-zero sum game here, im still waiting for the walkie talkie seller phone2go to reply to my email. at this point, he surely can keep two things. one is the board itself, for by the looks of it the seller can care less whether ebay hike the rates a notch for the privilege to have an online auction presence, and secondly, he surely can keep my email as a treasured memory, since im not planning to waste either a byte of my system or a neuron of my brain and blindly ask about the color of the switches anymore.
misinformed posts notwithstanding, since both ocn and gh recommendations, rampant throughout the internet after a search query - save the few posts by a handful of members - have been the kinds of hit-and-miss-look-under-the-keycap-for-me-jack, my best recommendation to anyone who is interested in used clear switches is to try the aforementioned boards ending in lcrus. until proved otherwise, any of those boards will have them.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
You can't trust cherry product codes. Period.
Ask them to pull a keycap. Also the board you linked to is overpriced and has lasered keys.
Ask them to pull a keycap. Also the board you linked to is overpriced and has lasered keys.
Last edited by keyboardlover on 03 Mar 2011, 21:04, edited 1 time in total.
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
More specifically: You can't trust Cherry USA product codes. The German ones were quite accurate even over decades!
But yeah, those big POS boards exist both in brown and clear variants - but with the same product code and even apparently from the same batch (going by serial numbers). Some are even stranger and have the F keys in clears and the rest browns or vice versa.
But yeah, those big POS boards exist both in brown and clear variants - but with the same product code and even apparently from the same batch (going by serial numbers). Some are even stranger and have the F keys in clears and the rest browns or vice versa.
keyboardlover wrote:You can't trust cherry product codes. Period.
Ask them to pull a keycap. Also the board you linked to is overpriced and has lasered keys.
gee. hehe. keyboardlover and his lightning fast responses. i appreciate your enthusiasm, but not so fast.keyboardlover wrote:You can't trust cherry product codes. Period.
Ask them to pull a keycap. Also the board you linked to is overpriced and has layered keys.
i agree. it is indeed overpriced, so what? human behavior has always been unpredictable. nothing new. it is in our genetic makeup. there may be a few more boards cheaper than the one you posted w/ the lcrus model or s/n. a quick search on ebay for the cherry mx8100 will prove it. doubleshots or not the switch is cheaper. arent we talking about used switches here, clear switches to be exact or keys? since the thread is about switches and not keycaps, you can’t have them both.
it is irrelevant to talk about what others would do when they just want to acquire a bunch of used or pre-owned clear switches- if it sounds better. it is a good move from the seller though (just like the brits recently did w/ their decision to introduce the filco on amazon. the competition increased and as a result ek had to reconsider its prices for their korean leopold demands as opposed to take some losses against the most sought-after and popular filco w next day prime shipping from amazon), who specifies the kind of switches in the first place and who is able, to attract a few more buyers in the process. a used switch is well... a used switch. unless i decide to order a deck, then the price is justified.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
I don't think EK decided their prices because of the Filcos. Leopold is just a better value. Filco can't compete.