Keycap SCIENCE! Warning; many pictures inside!

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 00:57

As we all know, everything becomes better with science. I had some SEM time, so I stayed late, and used it to make pictures of keycaps and their printing. I used several different types of printing to see what there was to see. SEM is a type of electron microscopy - the advantage is that the wavelength of electrons is much shorter than that of visible light which is what normal microscopes use. Shorter wavelength = higher resolution = greater magnification. These were taken on an ESEM and with limited magnification because there's not much more to see at greater magnifications than I took them at. Note that because electrons don't fall in the spectrum of visible light, these pictures aren't coloured, and aren't sensitive to colour. A homogeneous material that's coloured red on one side and green on the other would appear completely homogeneous throughout, but it's very sensitive to changes in surface topology. The combination of both gives very valuable information about the printing and the keycap material and texture.

Tl;dr; yeah bitch, science!

NB: please note the magnifications noted in each picture!

Here's the keycaps I selected:
*an ABS Acer 6312 delete keycap with the mysterious, possibly dyesub printing;
*representing high-quality dyesub PBT, a Model M insert keycap;
*a fairly thick Chicony ABS keycap with rimless pad printing (F10);
*in the other corner, a Dell AT101W windows key, lasered ABS;
*rimmed, traditional pad printing; a Key Tronic numpad 3 key;
*defending the honour of doubleshot ABS; a Key Tronic E1223418467857853876152742347628476 Num Lock key.
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Cut up into flat, small, analysable samples;
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The samples, mounted on carbon tape on aluminium SEM stubs, inside the microscope:
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First, the mystery Acer keycap. The lettering looks very weird under magnification. In fact, it looks neither like dyesub NOR like pad printing. The last two pictures show some of the edges of the lettering, which looks surprisingly amorphous and unorganised. Interestingly, although it very much doesn't look like dyesub, whatever they used actually reaches DEEPER into the keycap than the dye sublimation on Model M keycaps Oo .
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Second, the IBM keycap. The texture on this cap is very noticeable, and looks very even under low magnification, but quite shredded under closer inspection, with black chasms running everywhere. The writing is absolutely invisible under SEM conditions, indicating perfect homogenisation with the carrier material as you would expect of dye sublimation.
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Third, the lasered Dell ABS keycap. The windows logo is very visible under SEM, in keeping with the difference in surface morphology. You can actually see the difference in height between the lasered pits and the surrounding material. The lasered material itself looks amorphous and disorganised. The keycap itself looks fairly smooth and evenly flat.
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Fourth, the rimmed pad printing. The edges of the pads are just about visible, but I can't see the lettering in them very well. Surprisingly, the keycap material looks extremely even and flat, with almost no surface features at all. I appear to have cracked this sample while preparing it because tiny hairline cracks can be clearly observed.
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Fifth, the rimless pad printing on the Chicony. This sample consists of two smaller plates, one with "F" and one with "10" on it. The printing is fairly well-defined, but the surface of the printing appears bubbly for some reason, almost as if there are glowing alien eggs embedded in it. The contrast is very high on these caps, with a sharp transition from the printing to the cap, which is why they look so nice in person, too.
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Finally, the doubleshot ABS keycap. The lettering on this is RAZOR SHARP, with the seam only 10-20 micrometres (0.01-0.02 mm) wide, the highest contrast among these caps by at least one order of magnitude. The transition from one shot to the other is very clear, but the surface of both plastics is absolutely identical. Again, the keycap surface has virtually no features at all and appears extremely even throughout.
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Hope you enjoyed the pictures and the science, guys! :)

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webwit
Wild Duck

09 Feb 2016, 01:05

Can't you cheat with color like NASA? :twisted:

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 01:10

No, I can't do Photoshop :p . Besides, what would be the point, it would actually detract from the information in these pictures :p .

mtl

09 Feb 2016, 02:05

Very nice! Thanks for explaining what it is we're looking at. Did you find anything living on the surface?

seaworthy

09 Feb 2016, 02:11

Cool stuff. I love the smell of homogenisation in the morning.

What are your conclusions about the various cap qualities?

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scottc

09 Feb 2016, 08:12

This is really cool. Thanks for sharing, Chyros!

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stratokaster

09 Feb 2016, 08:35

Really cool stuff. That's what science is for :lol:

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matt3o
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09 Feb 2016, 08:43

this should be wikified

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ohaimark
Kingpin

09 Feb 2016, 09:03

I'm more and more impressed by the sharpness of doubleshots.

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 10:34

seaworthy wrote: Cool stuff. I love the smell of homogenisation in the morning.

What are your conclusions about the various cap qualities?
I was surprised at how rough the texture on the IBM keycap was, and that the dye sublimation is homogenised so well into the keycap. ABS keycaps are mostly very untextured and the pad printing appears flatter than I had thought it would. The rimless printing looks really good actually, and the lasering looks less sharp than I had thought it would. The doubleshotting looks nearly seamless though, I'm quite impressed. No way you can feel that seam in person.

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Muirium
µ

09 Feb 2016, 13:11

Pop in one of Hzza's HHKB caps for comparison. This experiment is nondestructive, right?

I'm not surprised by the results. Dyesub is my favourite printing technique by far, first for design freedom's sake but also ultimately its quality, and PBT is a huge step up from ABS. The two together are indeed sublime. I rank NMB's dyesubs higher than IBM's, actually, if you've got a nice early one. And Topre's are top notch. Which is amazing in this day and age. Please, no one ever tell them it's not still the 1980s!

A scan of (SP PBT DSA) Granite would be most informative, too. Amazing set, but still SP's baby steps. As can be seen with the legend alignment issues and the like.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

09 Feb 2016, 13:14

Muirium wrote: Pop in one of Hzza's HHKB caps for comparison. This experiment is nondestructive, right?

I'm not surprised by the results. Dyesub is my favourite printing technique by far, first for design freedom's sake but also ultimately its quality, and PBT is a huge step up from ABS. The two together are indeed sublime. I rank NMB's dyesubs higher than IBM's, actually, if you've got a nice early one. And Topre's are top notch. Which is amazing in this day and age. Please, no one ever tell them it's not still the 1980s!

A scan of (SP PBT DSA) Granite would be most informative, too. Amazing set, but still SP's baby steps. As can be seen with the legend alignment issues and the like.
Muirium superbly ignoring the "doubleshot" part of Chyros’ demonstration :lol:

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Muirium
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09 Feb 2016, 13:16

I'm on the phone, gramps! The pictures are fine, but.

(Fun fact: with the present site design, it's way easier to type lengthy DT posts on an iPhone than it is to read them. The text flows in the composition panel while existing posts are static slabs of unwieldy shape. The fact I can write more comfortably than read when I'm out explains a lot of what I get up to!)

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ramnes
ПБТ НАВСЕГДА

09 Feb 2016, 14:21

Double-shots sharpness is just... wow

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 14:32

Btw, Mu, the technique isn't destructive but obviously making the samples is :P . I also don't have access to the instrument for the rest if my PhD as I don't need to run anymore of my own samples.

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ohaimark
Kingpin

09 Feb 2016, 15:42

Could the Acer printing be a sort of high heat/pressure dyesub process? I can't think of anything else that would increase dye penetration that much...

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 16:33

ohaimark wrote: Could the Acer printing be a sort of high heat/pressure dyesub process? I can't think of anything else that would increase dye penetration that much...
The printing isn't homogeneous so it doesn't actually appear to be dyesub. If I had to say from the pictures it looks more like it's lasered, actually. But without creating pits. But with penetration.

:?

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ohaimark
Kingpin

09 Feb 2016, 16:42

Maybe they used a single, extremely large laser beam. The tooling would be bonkers, but it would be possible.

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 16:52

ohaimark wrote: Maybe they used a single, extremely large laser beam. The tooling would be bonkers, but it would be possible.
That would still not make sense because the printing appears to be flush with the surrounding material. It's almost like it's infilled or something.

Do we know anyone who might have worked in an assembly plant of Acer's?

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ohaimark
Kingpin

09 Feb 2016, 18:46

Counterpoint: maybe they pulse the laser such that it simply blackens the material instead of etching it. Backfill seems unlikely because of the dispersion pattern in the plastic. I've seen other Acer caps cut in half -- it appears to be a gradient, not a direct transition from one plastic color to another.

Apologies for all the speculation, if it bothers anyone. I find it fun.

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 18:55

Yes, I thought about that too, but that wouldn't explain why the darkening goes so deeply into the material, deeper than on IBM's dyesub caps (I was quite surprised to see how superficial the IBM dyesub is!)

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seebart
Offtopicthority Instigator

09 Feb 2016, 19:00

You scientists will figure it out! :mrgreen: Sorry OT, I could not resist:
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ohaimark
Kingpin

09 Feb 2016, 19:19

Chyros wrote: Yes, I thought about that too, but that wouldn't explain why the darkening goes so deeply into the material, deeper than on IBM's dyesub caps (I was quite surprised to see how superficial the IBM dyesub is!)
Maybe we're thinking about light the wrong way... Perhaps they mixed a UV sensitive material into the plastic and blasted it with UV light for a fraction of a second. It would explain the additional yellowing that Acer caps seem to exhibit on a regular basis. It would also explain the slight surface inconsistencies -- the plastic might be weaker where it was exposed.

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 19:26

ohaimark wrote:
Chyros wrote: Yes, I thought about that too, but that wouldn't explain why the darkening goes so deeply into the material, deeper than on IBM's dyesub caps (I was quite surprised to see how superficial the IBM dyesub is!)
Maybe we're thinking about light the wrong way... Perhaps they mixed a UV sensitive material into the plastic and blasted it with UV light for a fraction of a second. It would explain the additional yellowing that Acer caps seem to exhibit on a regular basis. It would also explain the slight surface inconsistencies -- the plastic might be weaker where it was exposed.
That could well be, I know they use something like that for black keycaps. It makes fuck all sense to do that with white keycaps though xD .

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XMIT
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09 Feb 2016, 19:57

A materials scientist friend of mine ventured a guess - is he right?

"[Chyros] almost certainly took these on an SEM equal to or equivalent to the Philips XL-30 environmental SEM, to avoid degassing and charging"

:evilgeek:

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Chyros

09 Feb 2016, 20:40

XMIT wrote: A materials scientist friend of mine ventured a guess - is he right?

"[Chyros] almost certainly took these on an SEM equal to or equivalent to the Philips XL-30 environmental SEM, to avoid degassing and charging"

:evilgeek:
To the letter, as a matter of fact. I never use hi-hac mode because I can't be bothered to sputter-coat my samples in gold.

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ohaimark
Kingpin

10 Feb 2016, 01:22

Chyros wrote: "To the letter..."
I see what you did there.

berserkfan

16 Feb 2016, 08:34

Really geek stuff. My head was spinning at the microscope pictures, of which I understand nothing.

Engicoder

26 Apr 2016, 23:34

I seem to have found another board with caps like the ones in question. It is a Unitek K-156.
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Curiously, there appears to be a halo of sort around the legend which can be enhanced by tweaking the light levels. This could just be an artifact of the crappy usb microscope I used to take the photo.
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terrycherry

27 Apr 2016, 07:38

That's...insane to do for keycap.
Use the DSLR with best quality and lighting to shot are the true way like what we see on the photo.
Anyway, hope to see more photo of your keyboard with high quality.

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