Sun Layout - any Cherry, Alps, buckling spring, or others?
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
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I love the Sun layout!
There are a number of things I like:
- based on regular ANSI layout;
- media keys on the upper right;
- Function keys on the left
It's distinct from 122-key terminal layouts in that it still has a real, regular function row, and in inverted-T . Compared to a 122-key this board is also narrower and less deep meaning it is a better citizen on the desk.
Maybe the modifier row could be better, and Help might be better as two keys instead of one.
The sad part of Sun boards like the lovely Type 5c is that they are all pretty mushy rubber dome boards. At least the 5c has PBT dye subs, the 6 and 7 are progressively worse.
Does anyone know of any mechanical boards - namely with Alps, Cherry, IBM buckling spring, or other nice switches - that replicate this layout?
There is always the Omnikey:
It has a(n, ugh,) big ass Enter and no media keys.
There is always something the this Razer atrocity:
But, only one function row to the left, a weirdly spaced function row up top, and no media keys.
Then there is the Gateway AnyKey:
This is a nice board for a number of reasons but the Enter key and the mushy rubber domes ruin it.
There are of course the IBM 4704 boards:
It has no Function row at all.
Finally there is the great FK-9000:
Very good, but again, no inverted-T arrow cluster, a weird function row spacing (groups of three?!), and an odd numpad. It also comes with a broken calculator for free.
So - is it time to start making cases and PCBs for Sun-style Cherry and Alps boards?
Maybe I can get lot_lizard to make me an MF board in this layout.
There are a number of things I like:
- based on regular ANSI layout;
- media keys on the upper right;
- Function keys on the left
It's distinct from 122-key terminal layouts in that it still has a real, regular function row, and in inverted-T . Compared to a 122-key this board is also narrower and less deep meaning it is a better citizen on the desk.
Maybe the modifier row could be better, and Help might be better as two keys instead of one.
The sad part of Sun boards like the lovely Type 5c is that they are all pretty mushy rubber dome boards. At least the 5c has PBT dye subs, the 6 and 7 are progressively worse.
Does anyone know of any mechanical boards - namely with Alps, Cherry, IBM buckling spring, or other nice switches - that replicate this layout?
There is always the Omnikey:
It has a(n, ugh,) big ass Enter and no media keys.
There is always something the this Razer atrocity:
But, only one function row to the left, a weirdly spaced function row up top, and no media keys.
Then there is the Gateway AnyKey:
This is a nice board for a number of reasons but the Enter key and the mushy rubber domes ruin it.
There are of course the IBM 4704 boards:
It has no Function row at all.
Finally there is the great FK-9000:
Very good, but again, no inverted-T arrow cluster, a weird function row spacing (groups of three?!), and an odd numpad. It also comes with a broken calculator for free.
So - is it time to start making cases and PCBs for Sun-style Cherry and Alps boards?
Maybe I can get lot_lizard to make me an MF board in this layout.
- zslane
- Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
- Main keyboard: RealForce RGB
- Main mouse: Basic Microsoft USB mouse
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Well, if you can live without the function block on the left, you're describing a standard ANSI-108 keyboard like the Varmilo VA108 and the upcoming Topre RealForce RGB.
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
I've already got a Noppoo EC108. Yes, I want the function block on the left! Also, as a nice bonus, the Sun layout puts Control, Compose/AltGr, and Backspace where they belong.
If nothing else I could make some Hall boards in this layout.
If nothing else I could make some Hall boards in this layout.
- zslane
- Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
- Main keyboard: RealForce RGB
- Main mouse: Basic Microsoft USB mouse
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Wow, you are really determined to keep me from ever buying one of these HE boards...XMIT wrote: ↑I've already got a Noppoo EC108. Yes, I want the function block on the left! Also, as a nice bonus, the Sun layout puts Control, Compose/AltGr, and Backspace where they belong.
If nothing else I could make some Hall boards in this layout.
- elecplus
- Location: Kerrville, TX, USA
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A G15 with a G13 and another little pad made by Belkin.
Multimedia keys are included on the G15.
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
The G15 has rubber domes, an Esc key in the wrong place, no multimedia keys, and the function keys to the left are not in the arrangement I'd like.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
Ewww. Logitech RD. XMIT, what do you do with the left function key block? My daily driver at work for the last two years is an ANSI-fied F-122. I assigned media functions to the left (with Unicomp's media keys), but I always forget to use them since it's so nonstandard. I have decided that my MFs will be programmed for a function overlay on the F keys for multimedia, mimicking my QFRs. I'm going to key switch swap to ergo clears in the QFRs. One of these days!
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
Mostly I like having the function keys - F2, F5 and F7 most often - where they were, on the XT board I used as a kid.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑XMIT, what do you do with the left function key block?
Conveniently, that frees up the top row of keys to use as programmable function keys.
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Yeah but \| ends up in a horrible location with the Backspace adjustment and it's a key I use more than the backspace at work. I've still got a 5c keyboard at home but haven't had the misfortunate of having to use it in years. Can't stand that layout. I tended to try to use Sun 5c boards in ANSI layout whenever possible and, eventually, Sun just ditched the layout as well.XMIT wrote: ↑I've already got a Noppoo EC108. Yes, I want the function block on the left! Also, as a nice bonus, the Sun layout puts Control, Compose/AltGr, and Backspace where they belong.
If nothing else I could make some Hall boards in this layout.
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
- Location: Ontario, Canada
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How about this layout? I LOVE this keyboard.
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
That is a great layout! I only noticed just now, after all these years, that this board squishes together the function row to make room for the multimedia keys. Yikes!
Maybe there is room in this world for a TKL with function keys to the left?
Maybe there is room in this world for a TKL with function keys to the left?
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
Cherry G80-2100:
Tipro (attach a 8x4 instead of a 8x8 matrix unit on the left side, switch Enter cap to ANSI, program each key as you like):
Tipro (attach a 8x4 instead of a 8x8 matrix unit on the left side, switch Enter cap to ANSI, program each key as you like):