The Cherry Switch Try Gaming PCB's

[haiiyaa]

Any chance of this coming to Denmark ?

[CeeSA]

shure, just read the op, the 2nd round is still open.

i put you in the list.

[RC-1140]

Hey, umm, maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough, but by saying "I would like to take part in this" I wanted to ask you to put me on the list of Round 2. Would that be possible? I'm from Germany.

[CeeSA]

sry, i thought i put you in.
now you are in and you are in the place you should be.

[Sir Paladin]

yesterday the post office was unfortunitaly closed. i`ll send them on monday to Gunny.

yesterday i also have bought some rubber rings and also (its called in german) "Moosgummi" (google translator sais "foam rubber"). When u buy the original soft landingpads they cost araound 12$ and the foam rubber only costs 1€ per A4 sheet in the "Baumarkt".

I`ll put my selfmade soft landingpads in the box so that everyone can test test switches also with the landing pads. I also put in the box some more foam rubber for making more.

What i can say about the landing pads: All switches seem to feel more comfortably then before. They eleminate the bottoming sound completely - so the sound is more solid. And they also decrease the traveling way of the keycap to the bottom.

At the moment i really cant descide wheater MX blues are my favorit or MX browns (both with landing pad)

It is really really really necessary to test all switches before u mack a descision wat keyboard u buy.

[RC-1140]

Thanks for adding me! But honestly. I'm not that impatient. I think it'd be good for kekekeroro when he wouldnt have to send it to Germany, just for me to send it back to France. And I don't think it would make much difference for zulios except he wouldn't have to wait so long. So is there anybody, who is against exchanging me and zulios on the list? I think it would reduce the shipping times too.


Just as an proposal...

[zulios]

Hello everyone,

Important notice : I will be away from sept 19 to sept 30 inclusive, so in case the package should ship to me around these dates please feel free to bottom me down in the list, I can wait.

-- edit --
Sent a pm to kekekeroro on that issue.

[Sir Paladin]

The switches are on their way to Gunny in France. I also put my selfmade soft-lading-pads in the box.

@Gunny: I´ll send u later this day a tracking-code for the package.

@all: I`ll write my review next days when i habe a little time for this.

@CeeSA: Thank you very mouch for the great package and your engabement!

[Sir Paladin]

I´ll write my review first in german and translate it then also in english.

german review:

Spoiler:

Nun womit fange ich an? Also ich bin ja auf der Suche nach einer mechanischen Tastatur zum zocken (RTS momentan).

Ich hab mich natürlich auch im Vorfeld informiert, was mir am meinsten zusagen würde und ne Menge Erfahrungsberiche gelesen.
Von vorne herein haben mir bereits die taktilen besser gefallen als die linearen.

Hier nun meine Favoriten absteigend:

MX blues:
Vom taktilen Druckpunkt her sind die MX blues einfach perfekt. Kein anderer Switch hat SO einen Druckpunkt!
Natürlich sind die blues auch die lautesten von allen und von vielen Leuten wird das als störend empfunden.
Ich hatte auch Bedenken und habe das lange mit meiner Freundin diskutiert.

Der Switch hat einmal den internen feinen Klick und einen zweiten Klick (wenn die Tastenkappe auf den Switch aufschlägt - man ist es ja von den Rubberdomes gewohnt voll drauf zu haun!)
Sehr wichtig ist wenn man die Lautstärke verringern will und das ist auch das was ich empfehle: sind die soft-landing-pads. Die kann man ganz einfach aus Moosgummi machen. Bei beleuchteten tasten ist das auch kein Problem, da kann man eine Aussparung in das Landingpad für die LED scheiden.

Nun fiel die Entscheidung relativ leicht, denn die Mx blues sind nun genauso laut wie meine alte Logitech G15 - nur klingt es eben viel präziser.
Ohnehin finde ich mittlerweile: Sollte man den Klick nicht als Negativpunkt sehen sondern als Feature.


MX browns:
bisher waren die MX browns meine Favoriten auch eine ganze Zeit lang während ich sie getestet habe. Von dem Druckpunkt bei den Browns war ich aber etwas enttäuscht, denn der kommt mir etwas schwammig vor.
Merke: MX browns sind also KEINE MX blues ohne klick.
Wenn man die Browns schnell herein drück (die Robberdome gewohnheit) merkt man das taktile kaum - man könnte auch meinen es sein fast ein MX red.
Weiterin haben die browns auch den bottoming-sound wenn der Keycap auf den Switch schlägt.
Mit den soft-landing-pads allerdings sind die MX browns richtig genial vom Geräusch her und der etwas verkürzte Tastenkub kommt den Druckgefühl auch zu gute.
Also wer Taktil will aber keinen Klick sollte auf jeden fall zu den Browns mit landing-pads greifen.


MX clears mit brown-Federn:
Hier ist der taktile Druckpunkt deutlich markanter als bei den reinen Browns. Er ist auch stärker als bei den Blues. Es ist eine tolle Sache ansich aber mir ist er etwas zu taktil.
Ohnehin gibt es die ja nicht so zu kaufen, also wird es hier bei der interesanten und wertvollen Erfahrung bleiben.


MX reds:
Die MX reds sind schön leichtgängig und gefallen mir vom Druckgewicht her sehr. Allerdings konnte ich nicht bewerten wie schnell sie schon auslösen, da die PCBs nicht angeschlossen werden können. Es kann also tatsächlich sein, dass die reds manchmal auch schon versehentlich auslösen. Sie fühlen sich aber sehr angenehm an.


Ghetto red:
Bei den Ghetto-Reds merke ich keinen unterschied zu den normalen reds.


MX clear:
Mir persönlich ist die Feder hier etwas zu starkt, der markante taktile Druckpunkt passt hier aber gut zur starken Felder.


MX black:
Die MX blacks sind mir auch zu schwerängig. Ich könnte mich nicht vorstellen, damit dauerhaft zu zocken. Ich kann mir auch nicht erklären warum die ganzen Gamer-Peripherie-Hersteller wie z.B. ttesports und steelseries ausschliesslich auf balcks setzt?!


MX greens:
Das sind im grunde genommen Blues mir starken Federn. Mier persönlich zu stark. Auch hier war das eine wertvolle Erfahrung, da es vermutlich keine reine Green-Tastatur geben wird.

english review:

Spoiler:

Well, i`m interested in mechanical keyboards for already some weeks - my old G15 does not always
register every keystroke an i need a good working keyboard for playing (at the moment RTS)


I have read a lot about the switches and their types and also lots of reviews before the test.
In advance, it was clear that i would prefer tactil switches.

Now here are my favorties (descending):


MX blues:
Their tactile pressure point is just perfect. No other switch has souch a souch a nice pressur point!
Ofcourse the blues are the loudest of all. Many people regard this as disturbing.
I also worried about the 'noise' and talked with my gilfriend about it. The switch has a fine internal click and also a second click (when the Keycap hits the Switch - it will happen often when you handle it like a rubberdome with lots of pressure)
Very imnportant is When you want to decrease the noise i recommend to use soft-landing-pads. They can be made of foam rubber easily
Its also no problem when you have an illuminated keyboard - just cut a recess in the landing pad for the LED.
And so the descision is very easy - because the Mx blues are as loud as my old Logitech G15 - only the 'noise' sounds more solid!
After considering a while my opinion about the click is that it´s not a negative point but a feature.


MX browns:
The mx borwns were my favorites before the test and also a while during the test.
But i have been a little disappointed about the pressure ponit because in my poinion its a little bit 'spongy'
Keep in mind: MX browns are NO MX blues without click.
When you push the browns fast to the bottom (the old rubberdome habbit) you almost wont feel the tactil point - in this case it almost feels like a MX red.
Ihe browns have also the bottoming sound when the keycap hits the ground.
With the soft landing-pads the mx browns feal really great! The bottoming sound is gone and the slightly decreased keycap-traveling-way also improves the feeling.
Well... who wants tactil but without a click i recommend brwoens without landing pads.


MX clears mit brown-springs:
Here the tactile pressure point is mouch stronger then the one of the MX browns. He also is stronger than the blue ones.
It is a nice feeling especially for people who want a stong tactile feedback but for me its too much tactilness.
Unfortinutaly you cant buy them directly and al lot of experience and time is needed to upgrade a whole keyboard - but this is a nice experience at all.


MX reds:
The MX reds have a very smooth and light pressure-feeling. They feel very good. But i cant say at he moment how fast they activate - whether you activate them accidently or not because they are unpluged
Ah have i alredy mentioned that they feel very nice?


Ghetto red:
I didn´t recognized any diffence betrween the ghetto red and the normal red.


MX clear:
In my opinion a little to hard to press. The spring is just to strong for using it several hours. But the pressurepoint fits good to the strong spring.

MX black:
MX blacks are also too hard to press. For me it does not seem to besposible to play many hors with blacks.
I also dont really know why so many Keyboard-Manufacurers like. steelseries and ttesports just only use MX blacks and dont offer other switches also?!

MX greens:
There are blues with the strong spring of blacks. For me also to strong. Feeling the greens is also a good experience

[Khenra]

Hello all,

I would love to participate in this initiative. I recently bought a keyboard with Cherry MX Brown switches, but now I am left wondering if the tactile bump is really what I want. I've been debating on buying a new keyboard with linear switches, and then I found this thread!

This is exactly what I've been looking for. If it is at all possible, I would like to be added to the list of 'round 2'. I live in the Netherlands, which is close to Germany so shipping shouldn't be too costly.

Is posting here enough to be added to the list, or do I need to contact someone specifically?

Kind regards,
-Khenra

[CeeSA]

your are welcome!
i put you in the list.

@ SirPaladin, nice review!

[Gunny]

Switches received !

Review:

Blues :
Already tried on a DAS Keyboard I own. Very crisp and sharp tactile bump and sound. They are very noisy and can be both annoying or delightful, depending on your mood. They are also very light switches, it's a breeze to type on them.

Browns :
Already tried on a Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless I own. The tactile bump is much more subtle than blues. They are also supposed to be lighter, but for me, not so much, maybe because of the absence of a sound feedback. Those are very comfortable to type on but feel less sharp.

Clears :
They feel a bit like browns, only heavier,with a slight audio feedback and a more pronounced tactile bump. They don't feel really as good as I expected.

Blacks :
A good surprise ! I didn't think I'd like linear, but the switch feels really good It's somewhat heavy but the travel is very smooth. I have some doubts about typing on it in the long run though.

Ghetto Reds :
A bit like blacks, only lighter.

Reds :
Light linear switch. They feel pretty cheap to me, but may be more comfortable than blacks in the long run.

Clears with brown springs :
Wow, that's pretty awesome. Same "cushion" feeling as browns, only with a sharper bump and a light click.

Greens :
They feel a bit like blues, but heavier and with a more high-pitched click. They feel very satisfying to press.

[ano302]

if everyone is ok with it i would let fsykop jump in front of me, so we have one less transfer over the border which would (i think) shorten the waitingtime for everyone after fyskop.

[Gunny]

Sent the package yesterday to the next person.

[swaf]

Nice! This thing is going quicker than I thought.

If not everyone is in agreement of letting the other Belgian guy jump ahead, I'll just send it to ano302 to piss no one off. I think that is the fairest thing to do, nevermind the extra one or two days wait because of the border crossing.. Input anyone?

[CeeSA]

don't ask me or wait for my "decision", it's up to the group

[swaf]

I was waiting for the reply of the group... But I don't expect everyone to have replied by the time I'll be re-sending it, so..

[Khenra]

I would say just stick to the first-come-first-serve format. Maybe for the next round (3) CeeSA can organise an optimal way to send the pack around.

[CeeSA]

the problem to organise a optimal route is, you have to close the round.
than you could sort by land or whatever.

[cable]

I'd appreciate if I could be put on the list as well. Not sure if I'd make in the second round? Perhaps the third if so. Also, I live in Sweden and that's pretty close to Germany.

I recently bought my Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 with brown switches and I'm not really sure if it's what I really want. Trying this out would give me the opportunity to decide if I need to order a new keyboard (which is like, totally awesome by the way), but I'm pretty much in love with the brown switches too, haha.

Thanks in advance,
Cable

[swaf]

So I received the package friday and will be sending it monday.

Haven't decided yet, but I like browns, ghetto reds and reds, I think.

[swaf]

Sent to Germany.

Now, my problem is, I like the custom switches. Blacks require too much force, and reds not enough. Ghetto reds fall right in between. Custom jobs don't scare me, but the cost does... You have to buy two boards instead of one, to make only one board out of it. Except if anyone sells separate brwon springs or black switches (in which case: pm me). But I'm guessing the demand for brown springs is larger than the offering. When pressed to choose between the standard switches, I'd pick blacks. Ghetto red is actually closer to blacks than to reds, imho.

Same goes for the tactile switches. Clears require too much force, browns are nice but the tactile response is really subtile. Clears with brown springs are ideal. But same objections apply as before.

So my ideal setup would be two boards: ghetto reds and clears with brown springs, so I can change whenever I feel like. But I'm guessing I'm going to have to settle for blacks and browns. Except if I somehow can get the parts I need to make ghetto reds and clears with brown springs.

One more thing. It was really hard to decide. Four keys on a non-functional board give you an idea what kind of switches you like: clicky, tactile, linear, much force, low force, ... But to pick between subtle differences, like brown/clear with brown springs, typing a letter on both fully functional boards would be a more helpful tool.

Nevertheless, thanks for the initiative!

[detto87]

This is such a great idea, thank you for makin this available.
I live in Germany and would be glad if you could add me to the list.

[cactux]

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[CeeSA]

your are only the second guy asking for worldwide.
in the absence of demand for worldwide shipping i keep the second round open.

anyway i could add you for the 3rd round. but there is no date for this until the demand is growing....

btw: is there a switch you don't have? i thought you got many keyboards and switches

[cactux]

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[awxxwr2]

Any chance of trying in USA?

[ano302]

Hi guys, package has arrived. i test and test and test and have no idea. Its a hard choice.

I want to remember the next person to send me a pm with their adress (or the next two persons. If the next person dont answer, i will send it to the person that follows). I think i will send them on tuesday (on monday all stores are closed).

[ano302]

Ok, no one awnsers. If i dont get an adress till tomorrow morning i keep the switches till the end of my life
No, seriously, some of the next guys send me your adresses! i send it to the next person in line i got the adress...

[CeeSA]

did you pm and email them?