[HYPE-BUILDER] GMK Classic Beige

[Muirium]

Myself, I think that the Windows keys should have "GUI" and "Menu" printed on them instead. Then have "Function" as an alternative legend, as almost every modern keyboard has a Function key instead of the right Windows or Menu key.
"GUI" would be OS-agnostic, and it would be more consistent with all text-legends.

GUI looks ugly to me, especially compared to Meta or Super. And there needs to be two of them! Two that are the same…

Re: blanks. They add a lot of complexity of their own, but dyesub is made from blanks anyway so they could be a good idea. I wouldn't want to use one blank key here or there, but a fully blank set might be nicer than the inescapable butt ugly Windows logos!

[imbattable]

I thought this being GMK would make it ABS DS and not dyesub?

[Muirium]

Hmm. Maybe I pulled a Seebart?

The colour scheme certainly looks dyesub PBT to me. But maybe I'm wrong. I know dick about GMK really.

[gogusrl]

From what I know you have imsto as the best PBT dyesubs on the market and GMK as the best ABS doubleshots.

[Nuum]

GMK has not the ability to do dyesub keycaps, BSP has bought the equipment for that when Cherry sold it.

[photekq]

BSP has bought the equipment for that when Cherry sold it.

We're not quite sure on that one.

We know GMK bought Cherry's moulds. Their keycaps really are identical to the originals. BSP's, however, are a little bit different. They're very, very similar, but not quite.

[Muirium]

Ah right. Thanks for the clarification. I'd better stay off these, then. Got more than enough ABS caps on their way!

[pmh1410]

RGB

You don't think that RGB has been done do death already?[/quote]

A profile sir, B profile is many but A profile is rare.

[tlt]

What I need is a 1.25 AltGr.
As you well know

I would also be much more interested if there where alt gr caps in the set

[chaosstep]

How about textless modifiers,
like this


from Ivan's GB.

I really love that capslock xD

[photekq]

How about textless modifiers,

Most people really don't like that stuff, and prefer the original text/text+icon legends of Cherry ANSI sets.

That's also why I used 2x alts instead of alt gr. Most people don't use gr, and prefer the symmetry of two alts.

Really, I'm trying to please the majority here, to help reach MOQ more easily. A set's no good if it doesn't hit MOQ!

[Muirium]

Very true. I think you'd have more luck by bundling in 2x Command and (potentially) 2x Option keys for the Mac guys, or even just doing a 7bit and going Meta to mostly please the lot of us. Alt and Ctrl are fine on other platforms, but WIndows keys and mismatching blanks… nah.

[photekq]

Command/Option won't happen, but I have been thinking about the blanks. I may put them in. If they were to go in, they would replace the doubleshot win8 logo caps.

[kbdfr]

[…] That's also why I used 2x alts instead of alt gr. Most people don't use gr, and prefer the symmetry of two alts. […]

I cannot confirm that
A solution would be a set containing 2xControl, 2xAlt, 1xAltGr.
And if you want to satisfy the (huge) German market, also 2xStrg.

Anyway, for me it has ceased to be a problem

[Prelim]

@photekq, no mini mods pack or moogle kits? :/

[scottc]

From the previous page:

Could you divide this in more sets, like it's often done on PMK? 60% set, TKL set, numpad set, tsangan set, etc.

I'm in desperate need of a retro-Cherry set for my KBT Pure, and it would be ideal so I wouldn''t spend 170$ on a keyset where I'm going to use at most half of it.

It's really not viable with GMK. You will end up having certain kits not hitting MOQ, which is not what we want.

Also, if you were to split up the full set into 60%, TKL, fullsize, and then you bought all three for a fullsize board, it would end up costing more. That's how GMKs pricing works. The more keys in a 'set', the lower the price per key.

So, no, sorry.

[Prelim]

@scottc, that's completely different.

I was asking for a mini mod pack, like the one in Ivan's GB. I bet we will have more people interested in a mini mod pack or moogle kit, than in the set itself... even if the MOQ for it was 300.

[SL89]

i am now very interested in this set

[CommonCurt]

Command/Option won't happen, but I have been thinking about the blanks. I may put them in. If they were to go in, they would replace the doubleshot win8 logo caps.

This is a excellent idea.

I vote for this

[luckyryan333]

Yes... It's about time!

I vote for your original mockups, and they're perfect ones for me.
I hope "NO" Win 8 logo caps would disappear and your superb mockups would be kept intact as possible as you can.

definitely in!

[tlt]

I'm would be interested in a moogle kit. Spacebars?

[cookie]

Just 1 essential question
1. Is it PBT?

[luckyryan333]

Just 1 essential question
1. Is it PBT?

>> No, ABS.

[cookie]

Ewww... Okay I am out

[Muirium]

PBT snob! (Okay, I admit it. That was my excuse too. These will be a great set, though. The manufacturer just doesn't do PBT.)

[photekq]

You guys are too harsh on GMK ABS. I didn't like ABS either until I tried original Cherry and GMK.

In my opinion, they're the second best keycaps available for MX. They beat any readily available PBT keycaps. The only keycaps are that are better are original Cherry PBT dyesubs, which aren't exactly easy to find

[Muirium]

The thing I fear with any light coloured ABS is yellowing. I'm happier with blacks and reds than with pale greys and beige.

[photekq]

The thing I fear with any light coloured ABS is yellowing. I'm happier with blacks and reds than with pale greys and beige.

That's fair. That's one of the reasons I prefer Cherry dyesubs to their doubleshots.

Although, I wouldn't worry about yellowing for some years to come.

[HzFaq]

Cap materials are like switch choices, everyone likes something different.

Personally, I prefer Cherry ABS and POM over their PBT but I'm fairly sure I'm in a minority...

[Muirium]

I've a thing for Topre and NMB space invader dyesubs. (Which are quite similar.) The shape is super comfortable:



The case yellows. The caps do not! The shape is more scooped than IBM, with a noticeably smaller top surface. In a word: they're toothy! Good texture on these too.

But sphericals are still my favourite. Someday I have to get a HiPro.