[IC] HyperMicro and HyperMini Keyboard
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I've not forgotten about this, but currently I'm a bit short of time.
The current status of my work is that switch placement and controller placement are no problem, but I need to add the traces.
You layout is supported by the PCB, and a plate for it should be no problem.
The current status of my work is that switch placement and controller placement are no problem, but I need to add the traces.
You layout is supported by the PCB, and a plate for it should be no problem.
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
Easy question, wich stabilizers do I need for HYPERMINI/ISOWIN? And how much of each?
Thank you!
Thank you!
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
Do you think that something called "HyperMini" could be real keyboard?Icarium wrote:Real keyboards don't need stabilizers because they don't have too big keys. :p
- Ekaros
- Location: Finland,
- Main keyboard: FILCO MAJESTOUCH 105 MX Brown SW/FI
- Main mouse: Razer
- Favorite switch: MX Clear
- DT Pro Member: -
...7bit wrote:1 unit.Ekaros wrote:AS PCB is the same we can cusomise even more layouts? What is the shortest space bar available?
What other lengths can one find for the row? ;D
Hmm I might need to come up with HyperMini-Eka... ;D
Or not...
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
No one knows?FJ_Sanchez wrote:Easy question, wich stabilizers do I need for HYPERMINI/ISOWIN? And how much of each?
Thank you!
- phetto
- Elite
- Location: Swedistan
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro JP S
- Main mouse: G305
- Favorite switch: Topre Capacitive
- DT Pro Member: -
What exactly do I have to write to get a HyperMicro, Hyper-Mini-ANSI and Hyper-Mini-ISO to your bot 7bit?
Also, you are not interested in adding this to your GB?
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/desk ... t4651.html
Also, you are not interested in adding this to your GB?
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/desk ... t4651.html
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
You need for ANSIWIN:FJ_Sanchez wrote:No one knows?FJ_Sanchez wrote:Easy question, wich stabilizers do I need for HYPERMINI/ISOWIN? And how much of each?
Thank you!
3x STAB200
1x STAB625
You need for ISOWIN:
2x STAB200
1x STAB625
You need for 7BIT:
0x STAB200
1x STAB000
First there will be traces designed, then we can discuss the case!dirge wrote:Is a case going to.be designed?
- simkev
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Poker X - Ergo Clears & Red Alert
- Main mouse: Qpad 5K LE
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
- DT Pro Member: -
I am currently working on a Alu/Acryllic hybrid case, just need 7bit to give me the cad file for the pcb so I can get the measurements precise.dirge wrote:Is a case going to.be designed?
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- Main keyboard: Rosewill RK9000
- Favorite switch: MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
So, I've come to the following conclusions:
- I can't use C400 because my typical spacebar 'focus point' is right under the N key
- C600 might be doable, except I would want to use control where caps lock is.. and an off center caps lock kills that for me.
- I suppose I could use "hack", but then I lose the arrow keys, which I'd like to have.
- switches will be plate mount, which makes sense considering we're trying to be universal between all these layouts under once PCB. Unfortunately, this means you can't use a hybrid layout.(A board this universal with PCB mount doesn't really seem possible anyway though)
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- Main keyboard: Rosewill RK9000
- Favorite switch: MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
Also, I've been working on a couple of layouts of my own...
http://imgur.com/a/ra9TW
Null1
hack on the top, ansi on the bottom, plus arrow keys
Null3
Similar spirit to C400/C600, but with normal spacebar and 1.25 modifies on the left.
http://imgur.com/a/ra9TW
Null1
hack on the top, ansi on the bottom, plus arrow keys
- Unix layout
- normal 2.25 shift area. (split)
- split right shift (1x, 1.75) making way for arrow keys to the left.
Null3
Similar spirit to C400/C600, but with normal spacebar and 1.25 modifies on the left.
- Unix layout
- 2x shift area similar to C400/C600
- unsplit shift. (1x as my primary shift seems like a bad idea to me)
- 6.25 spacebar
- lots of 1x key in the lower right corner, leaving lots of possibilities down there.
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
So no stabilizers for tab, caps lock or backsopace?7bit wrote:You need for ISOWIN:FJ_Sanchez wrote:Easy question, wich stabilizers do I need for HYPERMINI/ISOWIN? And how much of each?
Thank you!
2x STAB200
1x STAB625
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
[*] The will be a conventionally staggered version of the 7BIT-layout (similar to Phantom 7BIT).nullstring wrote:So, I've come to the following conclusions:
Is there a reason C600 has an off center caps lock? I know it's a bit late, but can we change that?
- I can't use C400 because my typical spacebar 'focus point' is right under the N key
- C600 might be doable, except I would want to use control where caps lock is.. and an off center caps lock kills that for me.
- I suppose I could use "hack", but then I lose the arrow keys, which I'd like to have.
- switches will be plate mount, which makes sense considering we're trying to be universal between all these layouts under once PCB. Unfortunately, this means you can't use a hybrid layout.(A board this universal with PCB mount doesn't really seem possible anyway though)
[*] C600 can be equipped with center and off-center Caps Lock, or Control. The reason for the existence od off-center is only to be able to use existing Cherry keys.
[*] You can't have everything!
[*] Don't understand the last thing...
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
If you find a 5 units space bar, and if there are enough people who like it, the plates will be included to the grpup buy.nullstring wrote:Also, I've been working on a couple of layouts of my own...
http://imgur.com/a/ra9TW
Null1
hack on the top, ansi on the bottom, plus arrow keysOnly thing I don't like is that it's missing an alt on the right. Maybe you could do a 5x spacebar and add a 1.25 alt to the right of Fun.
- Unix layout
- normal 2.25 shift area. (split)
- split right shift (1x, 1.75) making way for arrow keys to the left.
Null3
Similar spirit to C400/C600, but with normal spacebar and 1.25 modifies on the left.
- Unix layout
- 2x shift area similar to C400/C600
- unsplit shift. (1x as my primary shift seems like a bad idea to me)
- 6.25 spacebar
- lots of 1x key in the lower right corner, leaving lots of possibilities down there.
1.25 units modifiers are un-cool! Nevertheless, PCB-wise this would be possible.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Tab and Caps: No.FJ_Sanchez wrote:So no stabilizers for tab, caps lock or backsopace?7bit wrote:You need for ISOWIN:FJ_Sanchez wrote:Easy question, wich stabilizers do I need for HYPERMINI/ISOWIN? And how much of each?
Thank you!
2x STAB200
1x STAB625
Baeck Space: Yes, if it is 2 units wide.
Keys smaller than 1.75 units including, don't require a stabiliser.
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
So then according to this figure:7bit wrote: You need for ISOWIN:
2x STAB200
1x STAB625
Tab and Caps: No.
Baeck Space: Yes, if it is 2 units wide.
Keys smaller than 1.75 units including, don't require a stabiliser.
I see 2xSTAB200 for Return and Backspace, 1xSTAB625 for spacebar and, what for right shift?
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- Main keyboard: Rosewill RK9000
- Favorite switch: MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
So, you're saying that the C600 Plate as currently designed will support both centered and off-centered caps-lock?7bit wrote: [*] C600 can be equipped with center and off-center Caps Lock, or Control. The reason for the existence od off-center is only to be able to use existing Cherry keys.
Can you confirm?
Thanks
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Yes.nullstring wrote: So, you're saying that the C600 Plate as currently designed will support both centered and off-centered caps-lock?
Can you confirm?
Thanks
So you need 3.FJ_Sanchez wrote:I see 2xSTAB200 for Return and Backspace, 1xSTAB625 for spacebar and, what for right shift?
Sorry, but I'm not the stabiliser guy here. I'm using a Tipro at the moment with a 1.5 units key instead of the 4 units space bar and no other key requires a stabiliser.
To me, stabilisers are a symbol of decadence from a past epoch!
- simkev
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Poker X - Ergo Clears & Red Alert
- Main mouse: Qpad 5K LE
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
- DT Pro Member: -
What does "SA-family" and "DCS only" stand for?7bit wrote:1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.5 (for SA-family), 2.75 (DCS only), 3?, 4 (SA-family only), 6 (DCS only), 6.25, 7, 8, 9.75 (DCS only), 10 units.
- simkev
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Poker X - Ergo Clears & Red Alert
- Main mouse: Qpad 5K LE
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
- DT Pro Member: -
7bit was wrong, but you cant blame him. He is stabilizer-less keyboards biggest defender and doesn't have to care about stabs.FJ_Sanchez wrote:So then according to this figure:7bit wrote: You need for ISOWIN:
2x STAB200
1x STAB625
Tab and Caps: No.
Baeck Space: Yes, if it is 2 units wide.
Keys smaller than 1.75 units including, don't require a stabiliser.
I see 2xSTAB200 for Return and Backspace, 1xSTAB625 for spacebar and, what for right shift?
For HyperMini-ISOWIN you need 3x STAB200 (backspace, return and right shift) and 1x STAB625 (space)
Cheers
//simkev
Last edited by simkev on 04 Feb 2013, 22:26, edited 1 time in total.
- FJ_Sanchez
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
How is the IC going? I didn't received any confirmation from Hyper bot...
- simkev
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Poker X - Ergo Clears & Red Alert
- Main mouse: Qpad 5K LE
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
- DT Pro Member: -
There were some fuss earlier in the thread about a symmetrical HyperMini. What do you think about this layout? keycaps could be tricky though, never seen an 2u row 3 or an 2.5u row 4
- jean_popovitch
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: HPE 87 (tenkeyless ANSI)
- Favorite switch: cherry mx brown/red mix
- DT Pro Member: -
I am interested in a layout like the C600 or nullstring's null3. I have no preference so far for 1.25 or 1.5 modifiers, so I would choose what's most practical regarding keycaps.
I'd like to use my round4 kits for this board, but the 1-unit shift and "|\" (except for the alpha kit, which I didn't order ) would be missing. Would there be a special groupbuy for that ?
As regards the spacebar, will the C600 use the spacenew type from round4 ?
I'd like to use my round4 kits for this board, but the 1-unit shift and "|\" (except for the alpha kit, which I didn't order ) would be missing. Would there be a special groupbuy for that ?
As regards the spacebar, will the C600 use the spacenew type from round4 ?