[IC] HADapter Round II (Pok3rFox, Diamonds, Splitkit) <= PRICES

For which Layout would you like to see the next HADapter kit?

WhiteFox (Focus on TrueFox)
38
28%
OLKB Planck/Preonic (See OP for layout)
25
19%
Pok3r (Mostly PN/FN mods)
58
43%
JD40/45like non-ortholinear 40% layouts
13
10%
 
Total votes: 134

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

15 Jan 2017, 08:27

Going through the kit designs in my head. I feel like this would be a great time to offer some short space bars for split keyboard designs!

Any input on that?

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gogusrl

15 Jan 2017, 09:04

yes yes yes yes yes

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

15 Jan 2017, 10:10

They will not be in great demand, I fear,
but 4u spacebars would be perfect for all staggered Tipro keyboards :mrgreen:

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scottc

15 Jan 2017, 10:27

Short spacebars for split keyboards would be great! I'd also like a 4u spacebar for any custom small-form-factor keyboard in the future. Them working on a Tipro would be great too (then I'd probably have to buy a Tipro too :shock:)...

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

15 Jan 2017, 10:47

I'm working on a WF with split spacebar (just saying)

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gogusrl

15 Jan 2017, 10:53

how do you plan to split it ?

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t!ng
Awake Sheep

15 Jan 2017, 11:17

Wodan wrote: Going through the kit designs in my head. I feel like this would be a great time to offer some short space bars for split keyboard designs!

Any input on that?
G80-5000 spacebars for everyone!

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

15 Jan 2017, 11:22

gogusrl wrote: how do you plan to split it ?
the easiest course of action would be 2.25 + 4 and 3 + 4.

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gogusrl

15 Jan 2017, 11:29

I think the best way to split it would be in 3 parts with a small FN in the middle so 2.25/1.25/2.75 or 2.75/1.5/2.75 so you can do all the combo's with your left hand and keep the right one on the mouse.

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

15 Jan 2017, 11:37

This is what I had in mind as a "Space Bar Kit" MINUS THE 7U!
There are enought 7U space bars out there in this colors:
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I like the idea of adding a 4u space bar, 3u is something I have never seen before (@matt3o) ...
Mist existing split space bar designs make use of the 2.75u and 2.25u shift keys ... those are essentials in the kit.

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

15 Jan 2017, 12:03

Wodan wrote: 3u is something I have never seen before (@matt3o)
I hope to have some prototypes soon

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DanielT
Un petit village gaulois d'Armorique…

15 Jan 2017, 12:54

What about a WoB DT Esc keycap ? Last round I bought a set only for the DT cap, and in the beige color I never use. I would be all over a WoB DT :D

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

15 Jan 2017, 13:16

matt3o wrote:
Wodan wrote: 3u is something I have never seen before (@matt3o)
I hope to have some prototypes soon
Just saying this is a very, very uncommon keycap size. Nearly impossible to find keycaps for that ...

With split space bars adding a lot more variety to bottom rows, I would love to see some "standard" dimensions for split slace bars and I believe the current common variant it 2.75 & 2.25

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matt3o
-[°_°]-

15 Jan 2017, 14:01

good point!

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PollandAkuma

15 Jan 2017, 14:14

Planck would be nice! I loved the compatibility of Terminal. Can this group buy not coincide with any others, to save my wallet? :D

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Phenix
-p

15 Jan 2017, 15:41

I like my clueboard a lot,
but it uses 1,25/2/2/1,25 as space..

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ideus

16 Jan 2017, 02:29

Wodan wrote: This is what I had in mind as a "Space Bar Kit" MINUS THE 7U!
There are enought 7U space bars out there in this colors:
1. I'd say that 6.25u could be safely left out of the kit under the same argument.
2. What colors are you considering? I hope that the essential beige is included.

P.D.: Please do not forget to include diamonds in A and B profiles of 1, 1.25 and 1.5 units.

Matt_

16 Jan 2017, 02:41

Wodan wrote: I like the idea of adding a 4u space bar, 3u is something I have never seen before
That's what the Filco Minila uses, someone definitely has molds since you can find them on taobao: https://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/540292005777

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I could see two of them replacing a 6.25 spacebar, the .25u gap could probably be taken care of one way or another.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

16 Jan 2017, 08:59

3u spacebars are common on (part-staggered) Access-IS keyboards,
where the switch is in the middle and each stabilizer exactly 1u from the middle
(allowing the spacebar to also fit 3 switches in a matrix keyboard).
Their profile is that of a classic Cherry spacebar,
and they exist in both beige and black:

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252721625458

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301784717921

If I remember correctly, Access-IS boards have Devlin keycaps, so perhaps that could be a source.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

16 Jan 2017, 09:20

As for 4u spacebars, the original Tipro spacebars (which again exist in beige and black) are quite flat, which at least for me is optically not the ideal solution.
In Round4 7bit offered Tipro replacement spacebars, but they were in SA profile, i.e. too high, and in dark grey only.
For my daily driver I bought (for much too much money :mrgreen: ) a Posiflex POS keyboard featuring a beige 4u spacebar,
which I then somewhat satisfactorily modded. It has a symmetrical design, though, in the sense that it has no slope:
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What I would love is a 4u spacebar with the usual Cherry profile and stems fitting for Tipro boards (switch in the middle and each stabiliser 1.5 u from the middle, i.e. stab stems distant exactly 3u from each other and switch stem in the middle of them - you can also put the spacebar on 4 switches of a matrix keyboard, it will sit on the outer switches and the middle stem will neatly plunge between the middle switches).
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Wodan
ISO Advocate

16 Jan 2017, 09:24

ideus wrote:
Wodan wrote: This is what I had in mind as a "Space Bar Kit" MINUS THE 7U!
There are enought 7U space bars out there in this colors:
1. I'd say that 6.25u could be safely left out of the kit under the same argument.
2. What colors are you considering? I hope that the essential beige is included.

P.D.: Please do not forget to include diamonds in A and B profiles of 1, 1.25 and 1.5 units.
The 6.25u space bar is probably the most sought after one. The great majority of Classic Beige keycap sets came with a 7u or 6u space bar ... the ones that came with a 6.25u space bar have the ugly off-center keycap stem ...

Anything I discuss here is for classig beige. Space bars will be HAD-alpha color ...

Rearding the split space bar options, I am not fond of a 3u space bar. 4U as a halfway-common occurence on staggered tipros might make it into the kit. I'm curious what matt3o works out for the split-fox as well.

2.25u, 2u and 2.75u are in for sure though, that's very common keycaps (as shift and numpad0) currently used in split layouts.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

16 Jan 2017, 12:25

Wodan wrote: 4U as a halfway-common occurence on staggered tipros might make it into the kit.
:mrgreen:


What about...
kbdfr wrote: A spacebar where the stems (for the switch and the stabilizers) could be lower parts sliding along an upper part to remain in any desired position:

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for example this way:

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

16 Jan 2017, 12:29

kbdfr wrote: What about...
Yes, with bluetooth?

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Khers

16 Jan 2017, 12:29

Bluetooth spacebar?

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

16 Jan 2017, 12:30

Yes, since we're all throwing around crazy ideas ;)

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

16 Jan 2017, 12:32

Bluetooth? Rather looks like redtooth :lol:
What I mean is of course a simple spacebar assembly, just plastics.

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Mr. J

16 Jan 2017, 16:14

I have this keyboard, I think this would be 2x 3u?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/im ... D600_2.jpg

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ideus

16 Jan 2017, 22:45

Wodan wrote: Yes, since we're all throwing around crazy ideas ;)
Jeje. You just made my afternoon.

In a bit more serious tone, you are totally right about the need for "universal" 6.25 space bars.

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Orpheo

17 Jan 2017, 01:57

Wodan wrote: Going through the kit designs in my head. I feel like this would be a great time to offer some short space bars for split keyboard designs!

Any input on that?
2U spacebar please!!!

iamacicada

25 Jan 2017, 07:25

Really looking forward to this. A quick question: will you consider doing a moogle kit with legends instead of icon mods Wodan?
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