[IC] HyperMicro and HyperMini Keyboard

mashby · 03 Feb 2013, 04:15

Ekaros wrote:So how much does custom plate cost to make?

I'm participating in the Phantom group buy Over on geekhack, and the plates were around $22. Ultimately, the cost will depend on how many people are buying at the time.

Ishumprod · 03 Feb 2013, 21:35

final thoughts, i'd be in for both an micro and a hack mini.

simkev · 04 Feb 2013, 19:31

will the controller chip be directly on the board or will it require a Teensy?
I really hope for a onboard controller.

7bit · 04 Feb 2013, 20:09

I will take care of this project once Round 4 shipped. I can't do too many things at once.

simkev · 04 Feb 2013, 20:19

OK, I am waiting with tension.

dirge · 04 Feb 2013, 20:44

After the mini you going DIY battleship? Have something massive with a phone touchscreen built in

Ekaros · 04 Feb 2013, 20:55

dirge wrote:After the mini you going DIY battleship? Have something massive with a phone touchscreen built in

Yeah we need something "small".

Like maybe:

2x function row,
1 full numpad sized cluster on left and 2 on right
main cluster
and multi-touch screen with scroll wheel and 2 buttons... Over the right most numpad...

Hmm might need tad refining, but should aim to around

150 keys, take or leave a couple...

7bit · 04 Feb 2013, 21:09

dirge wrote:After the mini you going DIY battleship? Have something massive with a phone touchscreen built in

I plan to add this:

TheQsanity · 06 Feb 2013, 06:57

Just bringing this back up:

I was in class and someone only had a keyboard. That made me remember how convenient it would be to have just one keyboard with a track point and mouse clickers.

Ekaros · 06 Feb 2013, 08:11

TheQsanity wrote:Just bringing this back up:

I was in class and someone only had a keyboard. That made me remember how convenient it would be to have just one keyboard with a track point and mouse clickers.

I want my middle mouse button too, most annoying thing with touch-pads is lack of it....

fruktstund · 07 Feb 2013, 12:09

7bit, now I know what I want, what I need! Please add an option for a Realforce 91 key bottom row! That's 1.5x/1x/1.5x/1.5x/3.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1x/1.5x I think.

Or well, I'd be happy with just that super-small-but-not-too-super-small spacebar size. Is this possible, will it be or could it be?

7bit · 07 Feb 2013, 12:10

Only problem: 3.5 units space bar.

> 1.5x/1x/1.5x/1.5x/3.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1x/1.5x

150+100+150+150+350+150+150+150+100+150==1600

Halverson · 07 Feb 2013, 12:16

fruktstund wrote:7bit, now I know what I want, what I need! Please add an option for a Realforce 91 key bottom row! That's 1.5x/1x/1.5x/1.5x/3.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1.5x/1x/1.5x I think.

Or well, I'd be happy with just that super-small-but-not-too-super-small spacebar size. Is this possible, will it be or could it be?

X2 This would be amazing, lets make 3.5 space happen 7bit!

7bit · 07 Feb 2013, 12:21

Space bar sizes (Signature Plastics):
1
1.25
1.5
1.75
2
2.25
2.5
2.75
3
4
4.5
5
6
6.25
6.75
7
8
9
9.75
10
10.5

Halverson · 07 Feb 2013, 12:29

Perhaps a 4x space? Anything tiny but not too tiny would be amazing.

fruktstund · 07 Feb 2013, 12:34

So they have every possible size in the whole world but 3.5x? How amusing.

I wonder if it would be better with a 4x or a 3x spacebar then... Probably a 4x one.

7bit wrote:150+100+150+150+350+150+150+150+100+150==1600

Huh, that's true. I wonder where I thought wrong here... Maybe the spacebar is smaller than I'd thought? Ugh, I'll have to look at this again after a cup of coffee.

7bit · 07 Feb 2013, 13:11

4 units is perfect when you want to use spherical key caps.

Do you've got a picture of the keyboard in question?

Halverson · 07 Feb 2013, 13:28

I believe that would be the row in question.

Although, looking at it now. The spacebar seems to be more like a 2x.

7bit · 07 Feb 2013, 13:31

Very nice keyboard. If I ever buy a Topre, this would be it!

150+100+150+150+250+150+150+150+100+150
1500

It is a 2.5 units space bar, which is available in SA-family ...
... and DCS-family!

The stabilisers for it are suitable for 2 to 2.75 units, so a wide variety of key caps would fit (blank 2.25 units key for example).

I can add the necessary mount points for switches, no problem.

Halverson · 07 Feb 2013, 13:37

It's a great layout

Glad it looks like it'll work out!

fruktstund · 07 Feb 2013, 14:32

Ah, of course! Thought 2.5x sounded way too small, but it seems enough for me at least. :>

Will be neat to be able to make a keyboard in a semi-crazy layout, so thanks 7bit! (I wonder if I should do a regular JIS layout or some crazy ANSI hybrid. This will be fun)

Will have to use SP keycaps again though, but I guess it's worth it.

Halverson · 07 Feb 2013, 14:37

fruktstund wrote:Ah, of course! Thought 2.5x sounded way too small, but it seems enough for me at least. :>

Will be neat to be able to make a keyboard in a semi-crazy layout, so thanks 7bit! (I wonder if I should do a regular JIS layout or some crazy ANSI hybrid. This will be fun)

Will have to use SP keycaps again though, but I guess it's worth it.

I like your thinking!! Got me all excited for this project again!

fruktstund · 07 Feb 2013, 15:23

Halverson wrote:
fruktstund wrote:Ah, of course! Thought 2.5x sounded way too small, but it seems enough for me at least. :>

Will be neat to be able to make a keyboard in a semi-crazy layout, so thanks 7bit! (I wonder if I should do a regular JIS layout or some crazy ANSI hybrid. This will be fun)

Will have to use SP keycaps again though, but I guess it's worth it.
I like your thinking!! Got me all excited for this project again!

Haha, thanks! :>

Got a bit fired up myself actually... Yesterday morning I thought about how nice it probably would be to have more thumb keys. 12 hours later Filco released a new keyboard which looked a bit like what I wanted, but wasn't quite right really. Then, this morning, I just happened to realize that I had seen a great bottom row somewhere; on the Japanese Realforces! Now, I'm having crazily crazy keyboard layout thoughts. The possibilities suddenly seem endless!

JBert · 07 Feb 2013, 15:34

But the Hyper* keyboards will be programmable! Think of the warranties you will be voiding to mod a Realforce!

fruktstund · 07 Feb 2013, 16:04

That's exactly why the possibilities are endless! :>

7bit · 07 Feb 2013, 16:16

... and full lifetime warranty!

suka · 10 Feb 2013, 17:44

Since I couldn't celebrate carnival this year I had to spend the weekend at home instead of going out with my friends

But in the end I guess the time saved was very productive, as my SuperHyperMicro or whatever it'll be called prototype is now fully functional - Yippeah

The trackpoint and all features of my previous firmware work fine, still missing is a detachable cable, but I need to find the USB mini socket in my electronic parts box first. As keys I chose mainly clears with o-rings for this one, as I am already used to blacks but would like to try a tactile version - the next board will feature red MX then.

: Clears for the masses, and Blacks for thumb keys; HyperMini-raw.jpg (133.85 KiB) Viewed 9592 times

For finishing touches I'll have to dye some more shift and tab keys, and I plan on giving this a more classic look with a wooden "casing".

: with dyed keycaps, colors subject to change; Hypermini.jpg (97.92 KiB) Viewed 9592 times

So far, typing is astonishingly comfortable, but I'll see how it fares in everyday work the next days before posting a more in-depth look at it.

TheQsanity · 10 Feb 2013, 22:03

Amazing! No idea how you did it but hopefully one day I would be able to design my own! A wondrous 40% keyboard!

Ekaros · 11 Feb 2013, 10:44

Halverson wrote: IMAGE WAS HERE!

I believe that would be the row in question.

Although, looking at it now. The spacebar seems to be more like a 2x.

Small right-shift? Why not small left one like in ISO? Those Japanese are weird at times...

Halverson · 11 Feb 2013, 11:00

Ekaros wrote:
Halverson wrote: IMAGE WAS HERE!

I believe that would be the row in question.

Although, looking at it now. The spacebar seems to be more like a 2x.
Small right-shift? Why not small left one like in ISO? Those Japanese are weird at times...

I agree with you there. Switch the shift to ISO style, keep the bottom row.