[IC] HyperMicro and HyperMini Keyboard

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 20:21

This is only an interest check!

If there is enough interest, those PCBs and mount plates will be available in a group buy.

PCBs will be designed for Cherry-MX-switches.

Please submit orders to Hyper!

HyperMicro

The ultimate keyboard for the minimalist!

After typing on this keyboard, you think a HHKB is full-size.

If there is demand, a conventionally stagered version will be offered.

HYPERMICRO
HYPERMICRO/PLATE

HyperMini

5x15-keyboard to replace HHKB and Poker.

The mount plates will be designed to allow the following configurations:

* ANSI/ISO: stepped and full-touch Caps Lock (row 3, 1.75 units).
* ANSI: 2.25 and 1+1.25 units left Shift.
* ANSI/ISO: right shift 2.75 units and 1.75+1 units.
* ANSI: 2.25 and 1.25+1 units Return.
* ANSI/ISO: 1 unit keys between Alt and Control.
* ANSI/ISO: 2 and 1+1 units at conventional Back Space position.

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/ANSI

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/ISO

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/ANSIWIN

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/ISOWIN

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/C600

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/C400

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/HACK

HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/7BIT

For a complete keyboard you need:
* PCB
* mount plate
* 40-70 diodes
* 40-70 MX-switches
* Teensy 2.0 controller
* USB cable
* stabilisers and LEDs as prefered

Pricelist

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HYPERMICRO       |   1|   24|HyperMicro-PCB (4x12)
HYPERMICRO/PLATE |   1|   12|HyperMicro plate
HYPERMINI        |   1|   34|HyperMini-PCB     (5x15)
HYPERMINI/ANSI   |   1|   20|HyperMini-ANSI    plate (7u space)
HYPERMINI/ANSIWIN|   1|   20|HyperMini-ANSIWIN plate (6.25u space)
HYPERMINI/ISO    |   1|   20|HyperMini-ISO     plate (7u space)
HYPERMINI/ISOWIN |   1|   20|HyperMini-ISOWIN  plate (6.25u space)
HYPERMINI/C600   |   1|   20|HyperMini-C600    plate (cursor, 6u space)
HYPERMINI/C400   |   1|   20|HyperMini-C400    plate (cursor, 4u space)
HYPERMINI/HACK   |   1|   20|HyperMini-HACK    plate (6u space)
HYPERMINI/7BIT   |   1|   20|HyperMini-7BIT    plate (1.5u space)
TEENSY           |   1|   18|Teensy   controller with pins
CABLE            |   1|    5|cable to connect Teensy to USB
DIODE10          |  10|    1|  10 diodes (weight counted)
DIODE100         | 100|    4| 100 diodes (weight counted)
DIODE500         | 500|    6| 500 diodes (1 pack)
DIODE1000        |1000|   11|1000 diodes (2 packs)
STAB200          |   1|  2.5|Costar 2-2.75 units stabiliser
STAB400          |   1|    4|Costar 4 units stabiliser
STAB600          |   1|    4|Costar 6 units stabiliser
STAB625          |   1|    4|Costar 6.25 units stabiliser
STAB700          |   1|    4|Costar 7 units stabiliser







.

Prices are based on the experience with previous group buys and might change.

As always, please submit your order to user Hyper:

Example:
HYPERMINI
HYPERMINI/ANSI
DIODE100
TEENSY
CABLE
STAB200 3
STAB700
your e-mail address

To clear your order, just send:
CLEARALL

To clear an item:
CABLE 0
DIODE100 0

For the prupose of the interest check it is sufficient to just order the plates.

You can change your order at any time by sending new messages to Hyper!

Thanks!

fossala · 30 Oct 2012, 20:24

OK, this sounds very good but what about cases?

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 20:29

fossala wrote:OK, this sounds very good but what about cases?

Aren't there already some case-projects around?

Maybe we could do something like the 'case' of the ErgoDox.

fossala · 30 Oct 2012, 20:33

I'll be in for a hyper-micro then. PM incoming.

metalliqaz · 30 Oct 2012, 20:50

I don't see how the hyper micro could possibly be any use. Also 7bit's bizarre layouts confuse a newb like me. I don't know what the heck a TOP key is supposed to do, let alone why I would need two of them.

Still, custom boards are lots of fun, and some of these look cool, but without a case ready to go I wouldn't invest. If it fit into a poker case I guess that would be okay, because they're always making those.

mintberryminuscrunch · 30 Oct 2012, 20:55

stop making me order stuff, I don't need!!!!11
I hate you

edit:
where are you planing to place the controller?

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 20:59

metalliqaz wrote:I don't see how the hyper micro could possibly be any use. Also 7bit's bizarre layouts confuse a newb like me. I don't know what the heck a TOP key is supposed to do, let alone why I would need two of them.

Still, custom boards are lots of fun, and some of these look cool, but without a case ready to go I wouldn't invest. If it fit into a poker case I guess that would be okay, because they're always making those.

The HyperMicro is just fun, but it will be a usable keyboard which requires a few more modifier keys than normal to reach the layers for numbers and symbols or function and cursor keys.

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 21:01

mintberryminuscrunch wrote:stop making me order stuff, I don't need!!!!11
I hate you

I need it to sell the remaining switches.

mintberryminuscrunch wrote:edit:
where are you planing to place the controller?

I think the only way is to put here and there some soldering points on the PCB and use wires to connect the controller.

mintberryminuscrunch · 30 Oct 2012, 21:25

7bit wrote:
mintberryminuscrunch wrote:stop making me order stuff, I don't need!!!!11
I hate you
I need it to sell the remaining switches.

mintberryminuscrunch wrote:edit:
where are you planing to place the controller?
I think the only way is to put here and there some soldering points on the PCB and use wires to connect the controller.

in relation to switches I'm good, plenty vintage black boards out there^^

the teensy placement on the phantom really sucked, so sounds ok to me

will there be price adjustments for the pcb if this actually happens? are you going with a different manufacturer than with the Phantom one?

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 21:29

For the PCB the manufacturer might be the same again, but I will look around for some in Europe as well.

Mount plates and optional case should be from a European manufacturer anyway.

trax · 30 Oct 2012, 21:32

Would this fit in a poker face?

*case

Jim66 · 30 Oct 2012, 21:47

Interesting...

guilleguillaume · 30 Oct 2012, 21:47

You should start using googledocs for your GB 7bit.

I know it's something like a tradition to send PM to a rare username created by you but in the end it's quite confusing

This looks quite interesting but I think it will be very difficult to find spacebar replacement keys for some layouts.

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 22:14

guilleguillaume wrote:You should start using googledocs for your GB 7bit.

LOL! In that case I would be locked out of my own group buy.

guilleguillaume wrote: I know it's something like a tradition to send PM to a rare username created by you but in the end it's quite confusing

It is much simpler for me to do it this way.

guilleguillaume wrote: This looks quite interesting but I think it will be very difficult to find spacebar replacement keys for some layouts.

For the space bars, there should be not too much of a problem:

Order-ID..................orders|qty|stock.......price|description
SPH/SPACE/BLUE..............|.69|..1|1.left......|..$3|6.25.units.Filco/Cherry/Leopold
SPH/SPACETIPRO..............|.18|..1|in.stock....|..$3|4.units.(SA-family.only!)
SPH/SPACETIPRO/BLUE.........|.11|..1|in.stock....|..$3|4.units.(SA-family.only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI................|.36|..1|in.stock....|..$4|7.units.(SA-family.only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/BLUE...........|.16|..1|in.stock....|..$4|7.units.(SA-family.only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/VIOLETT........|..9|..1|in.stock....|..$4|7.units.(SA-family.only!)
SPH/SPACE7BIT...............|.25|..4|1.left......|..$4|2x.1u,.2x.1.5u,.(2xblank,.2xSpace)
ROUND3/SPACE/BLACK..........|.64|..1|1.left......|..$2|6.25.units.Filco/Cherry/Leopold
ROUND3/SPACENEW/GREY........|..3|..1|in.stock....|.$12|6.units.(114;38,57)
ROUND3/SPACEOLD/GREY........|.18|..1|2.left......|..$2|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
ROUND3/SPACEOLD/BLACK.......|.18|..1|2.left......|..$2|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
ROUND3/SPACEOLD/ORANGE......|..6|..1|in.stock....|..$2|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
ROUND3/SPACE7BIT/GREY.......|..7|..4|2.left......|..$4|2x.1u,.2x.1.5u,.(2xblank,.2xSpace)
RETRO/SPACE.................|122|..1|1.left......|..$2|6.25.units.Filco/Cherry/Leopold
RETRO/SPACENEW..............|..5|..1|in.stock....|.$12|6.units.(114;38,57)
RETRO/SPACEOLD..............|.40|..1|2.left......|..$2|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
RETRO/SPACEOLD/GREY.........|..5|..1|2.left......|..$6|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
RETRO/SPACEOLD/BLUE.........|..4|..1|in.stock....|..$6|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
RETRO/SPACEOLD/RED..........|..4|..1|in.stock....|..$6|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
RETRO/SPACE7BIT.............|..6|..4|1.left......|..$4|2x1u,.2x1.5u,.(2xblank,.2xSpace)
NOIR/SPACE..................|.98|..1|1.left......|..$2|6.25.units.Filco/Cherry/Leopold
NOIR/SPACENEW...............|..8|..1|in.stock....|.$12|6.units.(114;38,57)
NOIR/SPACEOLD...............|.26|..1|in.stock....|..$2|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
BLANK/SPACEOLD/CLEAR........|..4|..1|in.stock....|..$5|7.units.Cherry.no.Windows
BLANK/SPACE/WHITE...........|..6|..1|1.left......|..$6|6.25.units.Filco/Cherry/Leopold

There are plenty of 4 (SPACETIPRO) and 6 units (SPACENEW) space bars available!

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 22:18

trax wrote:Would this fit in a poker face?

I'm quite sure it can be designed to fit into the poker case. However, it surely should fit into any poker face.

Soarer · 30 Oct 2012, 22:35

Don't mock, he looks serious!

I'm quite sure 7bit is deranged now... or is this a cunning plan to use up Round4 leftovers?

7bit · 30 Oct 2012, 22:41

It's to use up Round4 and CherryMX leftovers!

mSSM · 30 Oct 2012, 22:56

Is there a mockup or a prototype which he can show off??

sth · 30 Oct 2012, 23:05

so hyper micro requires no stabilizers? neat. i am into it. i wonder if the keys i ordered will cover it...

also color me interested in standard staggering for hyper micro layout. please

fossala · 30 Oct 2012, 23:12

Can you do a reverse stagger for the micro?

CeeSA · 30 Oct 2012, 23:34

I need:
- wireless
- trackpoint
- Scrollwheel
- HYPERMINI/7BIT + Funtion Row
- HYPERMINI/7BIT + Funtion Row + 2 rows added to the left side for macro keys
- Backlit LED support for all layouts

Hmm, i found no layout i could be happy with... :/

tjcaustin · 30 Oct 2012, 23:50

I kinda dig that hypermicro, but not having a case immediately available for it makes me wary for some reason.

sth · 30 Oct 2012, 23:52

tjcaustin wrote:I kinda dig that hypermicro, but not having a case immediately available for it makes me wary for some reason.

dont worry about it

tlt · 31 Oct 2012, 00:08

Doesn't the HYPERMINI/ISO need a function key or something to switch to a layer with arrow keys, del, page up i.e. ?

snoopy · 31 Oct 2012, 00:09

the hypermini-iso is cool

JBert · 31 Oct 2012, 00:14

Hmmm, quite some interesting stuff, but none like this alternative poker layout. (Although the linked design might have some inconvenience WRT to the small right shift).

RC-1140 · 31 Oct 2012, 01:08

Honestly, this HyperMini Hack looks interesting. What is supposed to be on the keys on the bottom? The ones with a square on? I definitely need modifiers for Neo, if Capslock is not where it usually is, and if I could somehow program these keys to work as a Neo modifier… On the other hand I don't really want to go through the hassle of ordering all this strange stuff I need for it. Soldering wouldn't be a problem, but collecting everything necessary would be.

trax · 31 Oct 2012, 02:00

alright lets see what the invoice is

Really interested in a Cherry HHKB and an ISO POKER

trax · 31 Oct 2012, 02:07

RC-1140 wrote:Honestly, this HyperMini Hack looks interesting. What is supposed to be on the keys on the bottom? The ones with a square on? I definitely need modifiers for Neo, if Capslock is not where it usually is, and if I could somehow program these keys to work as a Neo modifier… On the other hand I don't really want to go through the hassle of ordering all this strange stuff I need for it. Soldering wouldn't be a problem, but collecting everything necessary would be.

I think there ment to be the windows key or mac command key.

oneproduct · 31 Oct 2012, 04:50

I'm very interested in the HyperMicro as a "basic typing" keyboard. I'd love to see there be a question mark, exclamation mark, comma and maybe the hyphen on the top layer so that it can cover basic text without having to use a function layer for these simple characters. Other things could be relegated to function layers without impacting the speed of basic typing too much.

Is there any chance the layout could be made rectangular? I don't see a point to wasting available space since whatever case is made would most likely be rectangular. Both shifts could be made a bit smaller, adding two more 1x keys to the sides of them, and another two keys could be placed along the bottom. Alternatively, both shifts could be made to be 2.5x size instead of adding 1x keys to their sides. If it were rectangular, it might be possible for me to even get simple aluminum cases manufactured for them.

Edit: something like this arrangement. It still keeps the same overall size, but makes use of the extra space. The bottom row has the 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 that a lot of people like as well. The actual purpose of the keys are just for example and I just filled some in for demonstration. Since the keyboard would be reprogrammable people could use whatever they wish. The 1x circle key in the middle could probably also maybe be removed entirely to have two 2x keys instead of two 1.5x keys.

EDIT #2: Actually, scrap this. Check my post on the next page.