Great/Interesting Finds
- dcopellino
- Location: Italia - Napoli
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F400 brushed chrome
- Main mouse: Logitech laser wired
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0229
- Contact:
Ahahah, I appreciate your honest linguistic complaint that places me in front of my naive mistakes as those who pretend to mimic a foreign language with "nonchalance", ending to speak an Italish,. precisely. I also thank you for forgiving me the word white instead of the more correct clear. Three mistakes in a single sentence would have been too much even for me. Jokes aside, I'll try to expose them to sunshine with some hydrogen peroxide as soon as the season allows me.Weezer wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021, 07:37Wasn't expecting to learn some Italian today. I looked up candeggine and opinabile and saw the latter was synonymous to debatable or questionable. I wonder if it has a link to the english word opinable, which has a similar but different meaning of: to be able to be made into an opinion.dcopellino wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021, 10:021615625928774652856155648743546.jpg
Any hints how to get them white back.
I washed them with soap with candeggine oxygen. Results are quite opinabile as you can see in the attached pic.
As far as the caps, there is no good way to get them unyellowed. You might want to try retr0brite if the hydrogen peroxide bath in the sun fails, but honestly, ymmv because the original clear caps can be pretty brittle as it is.
cheers
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- Location: Des Moines / Cedar Falls, IA, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F107
- DT Pro Member: 0190
Nice APL beam spring restoration:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324522052015
Kind of reminds me of this APL restoration:
viewtopic.php?t=9365
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324522052015
Kind of reminds me of this APL restoration:
viewtopic.php?t=9365
- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
Fentek sells some high quality (dare I say better quality) clear key caps for our beloved IBM boards. They do not come cheap however.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
Fentek got those caps from Unicomp a long time ago, NOS IBM.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
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Symbolics guy is selling three of these for 4K USD each in a private sale. If you're interested see symbolics-dks.com for his contact details.
Spoiler:
I have three (3) XL-401s that are ready for sale. I have decided not to list them on eBay because of the increased fees that they are charging. So, I am putting them out to this list at a fixed price of $4,000 per system. Buyer pays actual shipping charges and any credit card fees. All systems consist of a desktop XL-401 with 4 MWords of memory, an FPA and an 18 GB 15K SCSI disk. This is paired with a 19 inch premium monochrome monitor, 3 button mouse and slimline keyboard. Power and video cables are included. All Symbolics software is loaded on the disk. I have attached pictures of the system and screen shots of the directory listings. These are 30+ year old machines that have been refurbished with newer disks, recapped console power supplies, cleaned and thoroughly tested. Since these are used machines, there may be some cosmetic blemishes on the cases.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
I wasn't trying to criticize you, I was genuinely interested in the links between languages.dcopellino wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021, 23:28Ahahah, I appreciate your honest linguistic complaint that places me in front of my naive mistakes as those who pretend to mimic a foreign language with "nonchalance", ending to speak an Italish,. precisely. I also thank you for forgiving me the word white instead of the more correct clear. Three mistakes in a single sentence would have been too much even for me. Jokes aside, I'll try to expose them to sunshine with some hydrogen peroxide as soon as the season allows me.Weezer wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021, 07:37Wasn't expecting to learn some Italian today. I looked up candeggine and opinabile and saw the latter was synonymous to debatable or questionable. I wonder if it has a link to the english word opinable, which has a similar but different meaning of: to be able to be made into an opinion.dcopellino wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021, 10:021615625928774652856155648743546.jpg
Any hints how to get them white back.
I washed them with soap with candeggine oxygen. Results are quite opinabile as you can see in the attached pic.
As far as the caps, there is no good way to get them unyellowed. You might want to try retr0brite if the hydrogen peroxide bath in the sun fails, but honestly, ymmv because the original clear caps can be pretty brittle as it is.
cheers
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
That's incredibly cool. I've always wanted to make a sleeper PC out of a retro case.JP! wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021, 20:52This is pretty cool I think.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPAQ-Portabl ... Sw1EFgTstt
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
For those who may more information on Fentek clear keycaps, see the post on viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17805 about them, written by some stroppy git.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
My contact at Fentek actually told me they got them from Unicomp and at one point Unicomp tried to buy some back because they were short. This was a long time ago though. Makes sense though. Fentek wouldn't invest in a mold and plastics blah blah just for retro clear IBM caps. They just got a billion of them from Unicomp stock which Unicomp got from original stock which they inherited.
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- Location: United States of America
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3000
I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this, but there is an nos ncr g81-3077sau on ebay. It is like $1.7k though, so maybe stay away. Anyways, here is the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NCR-Heavy- ... 3486894993
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- Location: Finland
- Main keyboard: Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: wireless
- Favorite switch: Alps
Nice looking Lynx branded small form factor keyboard. It says it's clicky, made in Taiwan. Can't find much information with google:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-BTC-5 ... 3191755855
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-BTC-5 ... 3191755855
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Looks a lot like this wee man:
wiki/Monterey_K110
I’ve got the clicky SMK/“Monterey” switch variant. It also came in Alps clones.
Here’s a bunch of closeups, when it had some prototype MX adapters and fancy Granite caps.
viewtopic.php?p=194579#p194579
wiki/Monterey_K110
I’ve got the clicky SMK/“Monterey” switch variant. It also came in Alps clones.
Here’s a bunch of closeups, when it had some prototype MX adapters and fancy Granite caps.
viewtopic.php?p=194579#p194579
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- Location: Finland
- Main keyboard: Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: wireless
- Favorite switch: Alps
They certainly have lot in common, Lynx also being from about 1991 according to one magazine article found online.
Those adapters are interesting idea! Recently got Amiga 1000 keyboard with really nice keycaps (even that some are missing) but switches are binding quite heavily. As I have understood that Mitsumi switches are difficult to clean it would be nice if it was possible to use keycaps with Alps switches by using some kind of adapters.
Those adapters are interesting idea! Recently got Amiga 1000 keyboard with really nice keycaps (even that some are missing) but switches are binding quite heavily. As I have understood that Mitsumi switches are difficult to clean it would be nice if it was possible to use keycaps with Alps switches by using some kind of adapters.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
An interesting idea, aye, but a fiddly one in reality. They were really tough to pull out of the caps, and didn't much like going in, either.
The crumbly 3d print material was the main problem. A true plastic could certainly do the trick, if within the right tolerances. Got to be good and sharp on the inner corners of the MX mount.
If someone wants to have another go at making these…
The crumbly 3d print material was the main problem. A true plastic could certainly do the trick, if within the right tolerances. Got to be good and sharp on the inner corners of the MX mount.
If someone wants to have another go at making these…
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
Decent price on a 3278 beamer. A few replaced keys.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Keybo ... 4717026291
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Keybo ... 4717026291
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- Location: United States
Indeed. But paint chips can be seen on the sides and seller did not post side views or rearview.
Good restoration project though. Glad someone bought it.
Last one in perfect cosmetic & working condition sold for 1600 in auction three months ago. So taking into account tax and fees, approximately $200 profit margin right here for those who restore and resell. Not much but not bad.
Good restoration project though. Glad someone bought it.
Last one in perfect cosmetic & working condition sold for 1600 in auction three months ago. So taking into account tax and fees, approximately $200 profit margin right here for those who restore and resell. Not much but not bad.
ekeppel wrote: ↑18 Mar 2021, 21:18Decent price on a 3278 beamer. A few replaced keys.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Keybo ... 4717026291
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- Location: San Francisco
- Main keyboard: Das Keyboard
- Main mouse: Logitech
- Favorite switch: MicroSwitch Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0240
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- DT Pro Member: -
Dont you have interest, MMcM?
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
That's bad ass.
All it needs is a DIY wooden case and it'd be perfect.
- raoulduke-esq
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Current in the rotation: Silver Badge
- Main mouse: Magic Trackpad 2
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring
I would file this one under “interesting” as it’s a Model M that was skinned alive, turned into a Frankenstein’s monster, then had IKEA desk lamps bolted to it... but it does have a certain charm. No doubt took a lot of work but the decimal point still feels wrong.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steampunk-Keyb ... 4378594028
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steampunk-Keyb ... 4378594028
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Model F77
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3S
- Favorite switch: Alpaca V2
Looks disgusting if you ask meraoulduke-esq wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 13:14I would file this one under “interesting” as it’s a Model M that was skinned alive, turned into a Frankenstein’s monster, then had IKEA desk lamps bolted to it... but it does have a certain charm. No doubt took a lot of work but the decimal point still feels wrong.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steampunk-Keyb ... 4378594028
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
"Steampunk" designs peaked in popularity (in a niche way) a few years ago, with "Datamancer" being the foremost proponent until his unfortunate suicide.
https://datamancer.com/products/
- inmbolmie
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Some random Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0230
- Contact:
The Frankenstein simile is pretty accurate here.kmnov2017 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 13:27Looks disgusting if you ask meraoulduke-esq wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 13:14I would file this one under “interesting” as it’s a Model M that was skinned alive, turned into a Frankenstein’s monster, then had IKEA desk lamps bolted to it... but it does have a certain charm. No doubt took a lot of work but the decimal point still feels wrong.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steampunk-Keyb ... 4378594028
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Oh, that’s what happened to him. I enjoyed seeing his works in the spotlight every once in a while. Nutty, yes, but otherworldly inventive.fohat wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 14:10"Steampunk" designs peaked in popularity (in a niche way) a few years ago, with "Datamancer" being the foremost proponent until his unfortunate suicide.
https://datamancer.com/products/
- AJM
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Geonworks W1-AT
- Favorite switch: Lichicx Lucy
- DT Pro Member: 0231
BTW: Sunshine is not a necessity. I retrobrighted a set of keycaps over night, the bowl sitting on a radiator - in complete darkness.dcopellino wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021, 23:28...... I'll try to expose them to sunshine with some hydrogen peroxide as soon as the season allows me.
But starting in the morning and monitoring the progress regularly would - of course - be the better option.
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kmnov2017 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 13:27Looks disgusting if you ask meraoulduke-esq wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 13:14I would file this one under “interesting” as it’s a Model M that was skinned alive, turned into a Frankenstein’s monster, then had IKEA desk lamps bolted to it... but it does have a certain charm. No doubt took a lot of work but the decimal point still feels wrong.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steampunk-Keyb ... 4378594028
Have to agree..
- SlowTyper
- Location: Europe
- Main keyboard: Cheap junk
- Main mouse: Logitech MX 518
- Favorite switch: Gateron Yellow
I found this weird Panasonic keyboard on local ads. It costs 5 euros it seems to be some phone terminal keyboard. Does anyone know name of this switches?
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