Reading about it I suspect it to be silicone-basedfohat wrote: ↑What a staggering idea!
In the US there is a product called "Shoe Goo" made for repairing the soles of rubber shoes and it is amazingly strong and durable. I think that I will try your mod with that product on an F AT rebuild that I hope to do soon.
Disclosure - I wasn't too careful with consistency and the effect was about the same, not much difference. May be even really tiny drops will work.fohat wrote: ↑Presumably the key to success is getting a consistent size and shape of bumper on every barrel. I will use 2 dots to gain a wider contact area.
Well, Ellipse can produce them so the supply is much less limited now.fohat wrote: ↑Too bad that barrels have become a precious commodity with lot_lizard's project, it will be with trepidation that I mess with them.
Unless there is a problem with Shoe Goo adhering to the barrel, it is an amazing product. I have used it since the late 1980s.DMA wrote: ↑
My biggest fear is that the bead unsticks from the barrel in a week of active use and jams the key
It does something! I don't know what, exactly. May be it just reduces the contact area and metal (well, metal probably won't - ABS) ball will work just as well.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑Interesting! So the silicone dot just absorbs the impact and vibration of the flipper coming back up, right?
I doubt they will be. If you look closely, the "horizontal" part of the barrel is bent upwards. Like sneaker soles, y'know. But that doesn't matter much - Ellipse can bake more, just needs to be persuaded to sell them cheaper.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑barrels [snip] for the "MF flat," and they would be backward compatible
I'm not sure about silicone longevity though - poured or separately fabbed.
Seconded.__red__ wrote: ↑I strongly disapprove of this thread
This.
Because FIVE would be lunacy.DMA wrote: ↑ Gentlemen. It only silences the rebound. Why do you even need TWO clicks on every keypress?
Replace the spring with a wet noodle!Laser wrote:How about the complete heresy ? (silencing a buckling spring *completely*)
Maybe even by replacing the spring with something else
How dare you modify a terminal board like that!
Well I guess a noodle peut boucler, but can not buckleTechno Trousers wrote: ↑Replace the spring with a wet noodle!Laser wrote:How about the complete heresy ? (silencing a buckling spring *completely*)
Maybe even by replacing the spring with something else
That's done already. It's called "rubber dome". Super-quiet. If you want it less quiet - ALPS white, MX clear.. lots of them.Laser wrote: ↑How about the complete heresy ? (silencing a buckling spring *completely*)
Maybe even by replacing the spring with something else
Ooh, now that's very interesting to read. Do you have the design, or can you reproduce it? If so, I think you should give it straightaway to XMIT in his brand new Hall Effect keyboard revival, round 2 keyboard thread. I'm not a fan of linear switches, so I didn't get in on XMIT's round one. But I know you like capacitive buckling spring as I do, so if you liked the tactile response of that Hall effect switch, I'm betting it would be awesome to have an entire keyboard full of them!DMA wrote: ↑A guy I know actually made a single key switch from those neodymium magnets - one ring and two pucks, to be exact. Absolutely quiet, great tactile response. He never moved to make an actual keyboard though
But single switch was very pleasant. Hall sensor was pretty easy to read too.
I don't like the idea of "Hall effect keyboard" just for the sake of using Hall effect sensors. They're complex, power-hungry, expensive versions of a reed switch.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑If so, I think you should give it straightaway to XMIT in his brand new Hall Effect keyboard revival, round 2 keyboard thread. I'm not a fan of linear switches, so I didn't get in on XMIT's round one. But I know you like capacitive buckling spring as I do, so if you liked the tactile response of that Hall effect switch, I'm betting it would be awesome to have an entire keyboard full of them!
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DMA wrote: ↑I don't like the idea of "Hall effect keyboard" just for the sake of using Hall effect sensors. They're complex, power-hungry, expensive versions of a reed switch.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑If so, I think you should give it straightaway to XMIT in his brand new Hall Effect keyboard revival, round 2 keyboard thread. I'm not a fan of linear switches, so I didn't get in on XMIT's round one. But I know you like capacitive buckling spring as I do, so if you liked the tactile response of that Hall effect switch, I'm betting it would be awesome to have an entire keyboard full of them!
I mean for restoration of a historical keyboard you can do it - but to produce new devices using THAT?
The design was easy. Cross-section looks like this:Where "-"is a thin-walled plastic tube, "0" is a disc and "|" is a part of a ring. He used ~3(2?)mm thick ~5-6mm hole diameter rings, with fitting disc magnets. I remember he needed to sand the ring from inside to fit a thin-walled tube as a guide.Code: Select all
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Simple, really. Not sure about longevity - magnets crammed into place can demagnetize over time. Testing is needed.
What are you using as a background in your photo?DMA wrote: ↑I had a bit of silicone sealant, so I put a very small, 1-2mm diameter drop of it onto the far end of the barrel - between that "7" stamp and the edge.
Ask Ellipse, it's his photo, I pulled it from The Internet. But, if my eyes serve me well, that's your standard styrofoam packing block.rsbseb wrote: ↑What are you using as a background in your photo?
I reviewed the original video and it really looks to me that the phone records everything at the same sound level. So video won't probably be impressive.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑I'd really like to hear a recording of typing on that at full speed!
