I like older terminal boards for a couple of reasons: 1)They're cool looking, 2)They're generally relatively cheap. This is an HP 2623A terminal board.
Hi-Tek (or Stackpole?) modular switches
Went ahead and traced it out and wired it up
Typing on it now. Not my favorite switches for sure, but it's still kind of a fun board.
HP 2623A Keyboard
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
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I use "modular" to refer to the patented dovetail system where the switch blocks can be physically connected. Stackpole also came up with a simpler design, that you can see (but not in use) in the [wiki]Lear Siegler ADM 11[/wiki] keyboard.
The HP2623A switches are indeed Stackpole yellow, but the contact design is the one that I associate with Hi-Tek. That proves nothing as we don't know how similar the two products were when it went to court. Since the court case failed, my feeling is that Stackpole's design already was different enough to not justify a claim of patent violation, but we don't yet know.
See, yours is extremely similar to the [wiki]Intel iPDS[/wiki] keyboard, including the whole space bar assembly — the switch contacts are pretty much the only difference! Even the stepped ends to the separate bars are present.
Can the keyboard be dated from the ICs? If this is Stackpole, it must be fairly old.
The HP2623A switches are indeed Stackpole yellow, but the contact design is the one that I associate with Hi-Tek. That proves nothing as we don't know how similar the two products were when it went to court. Since the court case failed, my feeling is that Stackpole's design already was different enough to not justify a claim of patent violation, but we don't yet know.
See, yours is extremely similar to the [wiki]Intel iPDS[/wiki] keyboard, including the whole space bar assembly — the switch contacts are pretty much the only difference! Even the stepped ends to the separate bars are present.
Can the keyboard be dated from the ICs? If this is Stackpole, it must be fairly old.
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
There's a new theory from two former Hi-Tek employees (D'Milo and Susan) — that all Hi-Tek sliders were white (colourless). So that would imply that Stackpole did copy the exact contact design originally. And funnily enough, every confirmed Hi-Tek high-profile keyboard listed on the wiki has white sliders …
D'Milo suggests that this one may be a mixture: Stackpole for the main keys, and Hi-Tek for the top rows.
D'Milo suggests that this one may be a mixture: Stackpole for the main keys, and Hi-Tek for the top rows.
- Sangdrax
- Location: Hill Country
- Main keyboard: Harris 1978 Terminal
- Main mouse: Mammoth
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Looks great. How did you hook it up? Just rows and columns to a teensy?
I've also been meaning to ask this from all the stackpole and hi-tek switches like this you see on stuff like the old TI home computers. Does lube on the stem help at all with the feel?
I've also been meaning to ask this from all the stackpole and hi-tek switches like this you see on stuff like the old TI home computers. Does lube on the stem help at all with the feel?
- OldIsNew
- Location: US
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Forgot to mention the date, the inside of the case is stamped Aug 12 1984.Daniel Beardsmore wrote: ↑ Can the keyboard be dated from the ICs? If this is Stackpole, it must be fairly old.
Yes! Just took a little time to figure out the matrix, but nothing complicated. Just wires from the IC pads to the Teensy.Sangdrax wrote: ↑Looks great. How did you hook it up? Just rows and columns to a teensy?
I was wondering about that too. The switches on this board were pretty clean and feel ok, but I would imagine these type switches could get rather scratchy. Has anyone tried lubing them?Sangdrax wrote: ↑ I've also been meaning to ask this from all the stackpole and hi-tek switches like this you see on stuff like the old TI home computers. Does lube on the stem help at all with the feel?
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
What do the white switches look like?
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Interesting — they're different in so many ways. Even the contacts are a different shape. It would seem to be Hi-Tek white switches and Stackpole yellow switches. Still under investigation!