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Halvar

21 Dec 2013, 14:19

I have to admit that I don't really understand why the numpad kits have ~ and &. What do you use those for when you enter numbers? Wouldn't %, $, € or backspace be handier there?

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facetsesame
Mad Dasher

21 Dec 2013, 14:37

7bit wrote:
facetsesame wrote:...
Thanks for that! So I'll use a normal Enter, then if I do want a 2u + I'll need a POS key and to disable one of the switches. I just can't decide if I want to do that or go with 1u for the rest - for me the lack of a 2u + is the most annoying thing about 122 layouts.
U mad???
:mad:

I'd like them to be 1 units all of them. With the 1 unit + key you get an extra key which I use for &.
I suppose I need to try more, but habit makes me hit the middle of the 2u + key, so I never seem to get on well with two different keys there. I'm also not sure what I would want in the gap, I don't concatenate numbers much so wouldn't find & too useful, % maybe, but then the magic of the 8200 is that there's an extra column next door for a good selection of useful symbols (or silly keys). Tab and backspace are also cool to have there. I guess the answer is to buy as many keys as possible to cover all options :lol:

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Mad Dasher

21 Dec 2013, 14:54

7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...
The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?

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Muirium
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21 Dec 2013, 16:35

facetsesame wrote:
7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...
The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?
I'm all in favour of sneaky bits of magic.

The arrow I'm most after is row 2 UP in the triangle kits, of course, which I have ordered in black and might extend to other colours too. But those other cursor kits become more interesting with row 2 + row 4 support, too.

By the way: is Jefferai still good for PayPal? I finally have the dollars to make a decent payment today!

jefferai

21 Dec 2013, 17:24

Muirium wrote:
facetsesame wrote:
7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...
The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?
I'm all in favour of sneaky bits of magic.

The arrow I'm most after is row 2 UP in the triangle kits, of course, which I have ordered in black and might extend to other colours too. But those other cursor kits become more interesting with row 2 + row 4 support, too.

By the way: is Jefferai still good for PayPal? I finally have the dollars to make a decent payment today!
Use whoever the latest invoice tells you to use. I think there's a way to have the bot resend an invoice...maybe a blank message?

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Muirium
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21 Dec 2013, 17:25

Just checking that this GB hasn't maxed out your PayPal like it did for Megnin!

jefferai

21 Dec 2013, 17:27

Muirium wrote:Just checking that this GB hasn't maxed out your PayPal like it did for Megnin!
It might at some point but not yet :-)

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Muirium
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21 Dec 2013, 17:31

Okay, there's my payment. Thanks for helping out with the GB.

jefferai

21 Dec 2013, 17:35

Muirium wrote:Okay, there's my payment. Thanks for helping out with the GB.
Got it and it's been recorded. Thank you for sending me all of your monies.

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7bit

21 Dec 2013, 17:44

Halvar wrote:I have to admit that I don't really understand why the numpad kits have ~ and &. What do you use those for when you enter numbers? Wouldn't %, $, € or backspace be handier there?
~/* is very useful when navigating through the directory hirarchy. & is also usefull for typing things like netscape & and then RUN afterwards to start the program.
:o

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Mad Dasher

21 Dec 2013, 18:20

I'm not sure about the CURSORS kit pic vs the list on the 16th:
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    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |LEFT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |DOWN
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |RIGHT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\leftarrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\downarrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\rightarrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |UP
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |LEFT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |DOWN
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |RIGHT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |UP
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R3U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |LEFT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |DOWN
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |RIGHT
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow
    HONEY/CURSORS           |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |UP
Everything matches except the three row 2 arrow keys. Instead there are the following two keys (so total 21 instead of 22):
HONEY/CURSORS |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow - this is the row 2 \downarrow
HONEY/CURSORS |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |UP - this isn't shown in the pic

So the pic shows a row 2 left and right arrow that aren't on the list, instead of these the list has a row 2 UP key.

Are you able to keep the row 2 UP as on the list, and also add the missing row 2 \uparrow we've been longing for to the list? This will total 22 keys like in the picture. To keep the number of keys at 22, the row 2 \leftarrow and \rightarrow can be removed, as they already exist as the row 4 arrow keys. Here's my suggestion:
CURSORS_suggestion.png
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I hope this makes sense.

Neebio

21 Dec 2013, 18:22

7bit wrote:No, prices might go down again. That's why I ask for 50% payment.
[edit] nvm, thought about it, I can't math. Disregard. By paying 100% now I may have lost out on a dollar or two if there is a refund. Oh well, no biggie.

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Muirium
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21 Dec 2013, 18:34

Sure does make sense, facetsesame. I'd love to see this implemented in the triangle arrow kits too. Concave cursor options for all!

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7bit

21 Dec 2013, 18:40

Sorry, just uploaded the current */CURSORS version.
:roll:

They contain all keys except the duplicate row 4 left right arrows (which are the same as row 2 right left) and with the extra row 2 UP.
:-)

farinasa_

21 Dec 2013, 18:45

7bit wrote: netscape &
lol

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Mad Dasher

21 Dec 2013, 19:07

7bit wrote:Sorry, just uploaded the current */CURSORS version.
:roll:

They contain all keys except the duplicate row 4 left right arrows (which are the same as row 2 right left) and with the extra row 2 UP.
:-)
Aha, thank you! So, good news: Row 2 UP is included and duplicate keys are not! :)
Bad news: kit is "now" "only" 21 keys instead of 22 and doesn't have the magic row 2 \uparrow key. So a second kit is still required for 2/4 or 2/3/4.
How do you best phrase this? 2/4 is a musical time signature, 2 up/2 down is a terraced house...
Muirium wrote:Sure does make sense, facetsesame. I'd love to see this implemented in the triangle arrow kits too. Concave cursor options for all!
Thanks :) The CURSYM kits though don't seem to have had the same situation, all the legends are reversible and there were no duplicated keys.

So after that last pic update, it's confirmed the CURSOR and CURSYM are the same: an extra row 2 up must be begged to be added or two kits bought. Somehow I feel as if I'm back where I started.

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Ichigo87

21 Dec 2013, 19:10

@7bit

Hi, I've just tried to send you a bank transfer on the website of my bank but they don't accept it without an address. Could you send it to me please ?

TY

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7bit

21 Dec 2013, 19:34

Is this really SEPA transfer?

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matt3o
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21 Dec 2013, 19:38

yeah some banks ask for the address of the recipient.

Oka

21 Dec 2013, 20:07

Just ordered - my first group buy!
Exciting stuff.

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7bit

21 Dec 2013, 20:22

Someone must try a dummy address to see what happens.

jefferai

21 Dec 2013, 20:27

Any news on CAT?

Also 7bit, can you check PMs re payment question?

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Mad Dasher

21 Dec 2013, 20:34

7bit wrote:Someone must try a dummy address to see what happens.
Your dummy addresses are the best :D
Walter Cherry
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Ichigo87

21 Dec 2013, 22:28

I have no choice, i really need you address and i am pretty sure that it's a bad idea to send a wrong one. So i am waiting for your pm 7bit. Thank you

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Vierax

21 Dec 2013, 23:28

Banks are sometimes paranoid, I have accounts in two different banks and one of it forces me to mail them a confirmation paper if I want to do an online SEPA transfer to a new account outside the country or to add this account to my favourite :o

BTW I made a transfer into my payment account few days ago but it's not on it (the other bank seems to be still working on markets with it) so please 7bit don't erase my order on Monday, I'll make the full payment this next days.
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Muirium
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21 Dec 2013, 23:31

facetsesame wrote:So after that last pic update, it's confirmed the CURSOR and CURSYM are the same: an extra row 2 up must be begged to be added or two kits bought. Somehow I feel as if I'm back where I started.
Indeed. All cursor formats: NEEDS ROW 2 UP!

Wait, let me guess 7bit's response…

:roll:

jefferai

22 Dec 2013, 00:04

Muirium wrote:
Wait, let me guess 7bit's response…

:roll:
Nailed it.

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facetsesame
Mad Dasher

22 Dec 2013, 00:09

Muirium wrote: :roll:
Well, at least we have the ROLL key sorted.

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7bit

22 Dec 2013, 00:21

OK, added the row 2 up triangle (which is the same as row 4 down).

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Muirium
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22 Dec 2013, 00:50

Yes! Thanks 7bit.

Are the (various colours) HONEY/CURSORS sets too deep in trouble to get the same touch of magic?

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