Who has ever heard of Bilderberg & other conspiracy theories

[Peter]

I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll.
And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?"
"Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it …"
Bill Hicks .

I don't think it's stretching things to call most politicians 'fascists' -
Being a homicidal maniac isn't a requirement in fascism !

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[JBert]

PS : SSL is hopelessly broken !
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Trolling again?

[RC-1140]

by the way, the blog referenced in the first few posts, feel free to use my css for that.

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[vivalarevolución]

Famously, it was the liberal votes that went to Ralph Nader (Green) that got Bush close enough to be able to cheat the 2000 US Presidential election. Nader was a good man, but Bush was the real enemy. Gore wasn't exactly oblivious to environmental issues.

No man. Not true. The deciding factor in the 2000 election was not Nader. The margin of victory was so small in Florida that other third party candidates could have closed that gap. Other questions:

Why didn't Gore make himself more appealing to Florida voters to gain more voted?
What about the millions of Florida citizens that did not vote?
What about the malfunctions of those voting machines?
What about the stupid idea that people have to work on Election Day, therefore supressing the amount of voters?

[Muirium]

The other 49 states were voting that day too:

• If Gore won Ohio, he would have been president.
• If Gore won Tennessee, his home state, he would have been president. (The first since Woodrow Wilson to lose their home but win the nation.)
• If Gore even just won New Hampshire — which he would, with Nader's votes — he would have been president.

All while still "losing" Florida!

The election in Florida was a disaster. Purely rigged. But the whole country was close. Gore had a shitty campaign and didn't have the lead he needed on Election Day. When the going gets close, the cheaters get going.

[webwit]

Ouch!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/s ... s-security

[7bit]

Well, this is not new to me. In the old days (before 1990) we had been spied out by the East and the West.
Nowadays we are spied out by the West and the East. It is just the same, except there is no wall anymore and I can drive my car at top speed through the former GDR.


ps: I would not wonder if the West would out-source some spy activities to Russia and China. This way we taxpayers could save a lot of money.

[t!ng]

That fefe-blog is really good, thanks for that.

German mainstream is numb atm, because of the elections, and thus full of that shit. Funny how everything else has become less "important" (syria, snowden).
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This is interesting too (The IPCC's report on global warming etc):

http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de ... alsch.html

Global warming? Nah, just some compute errors, but thanks for your money for the climate change taxes!
Melting north pole? Nope.
Massive raise of temperature yearly? Mhm. No.
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What do you think of Apples "new" finger print method for the IP 5s?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzG4BcaK064

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Oh and please help Obama with his 3rd World War:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ

[Muirium]

German mainstream is numb atm, because of the elections, and thus full of that shit. Funny how everything else has become less "important" (syria, snowden).

Traditional media's curse: fixed format. Doesn't matter how much or little goes on in a day, they have X pages to fill or Y minutes. So perspective flies right out the window.

The real trouble is the same is essentially true for everyone. We all only have a certain amount of mental bandwidth for the events and affairs of the world. Some of us try to be better informed than the rest, but ultimately we're all ignorant by default. Unless we're there in person, working on the story.

[mr_a500]

Old thread, but here are a couple newer "must watch" videos - not just "conspiracy nuts", but credible people doing detailed research.

Who would you rather believe - actual high-rise architects, physicists and eyewitnesses or corrupt politicians and vapid corporate media personalities?

[kbdfr]

Old thread, but here are a couple newer "must watch" videos - not just "conspiracy nuts", but credible people doing detailed research.

[videos]

Who would you rather believe - actual high-rise architects, physicists and eyewitnesses or corrupt politicians and vapid corporate media personalities?

There is a bias in your question as you disqualify one side from the outset ("corrupt", "vapid").
I'd rather believe committed politicians and journalists than obscure authors praising their own books.

Ask someone who actually never has beaten his wife "Do you still beat your wife?".
No matter what he answers, you will not be satisfied.

[Muirium]

Worse than loaded questions: the inherent lack of falsifiability in conspiracy lore. Only the other side must ever "prove" anything. What pigshit! It's no different than arguing with a keenly irritating child.

[mr_a500]

You obviously didn't watch the videos.

[seebart]

I watched both videos and am even more disturbed than before. I will not say anymore and I have my reasons. This "event", which I watched live on television on that day, reaches beyond my worst fears.

[kbdfr]

The first one was over 3 hours, if I remember correctly.
I didn't bother to check for the other one.

You can make a conspiracy theory about nearly anything.
The problem is that some actually do.

[Muirium]

3 hours? For fuck's sake! What is this? Another bloody Lord of the Rings?

[Halvar]

The parts of the first video that I watched were more convincing than I expected that there's something wrong with the official report.

[Muirium]

[seebart]

The parts of the first video that I watched were more convincing than I expected that there's something wrong with the official report.

See what you think after watching the second one.

[kbdfr]

After the Charlie Hebdo killing in Paris, there has (of course…) also been a "false flag" theory.
One of the arguments was (and still is) that when the policeman lying on the pavement was shot in the head,
the blood did not flow the way it would have if it had been a real bullet, so the policeman was just acting.
To explain the fact that he actually died, it was then argued that he was shot afterwards to make sure he wouldn't talk.
Why, in this absurd theory, he wasn't shot in the first place doesn't play a role.

Because if you absolutely want [insert your favorite here] to be responsible for anything, you will always find arguments.
In this case two contradictory arguments equate to an even greater conspiracy - how absurd…

[fohat]

The planes flew into the World Trade Center for certain, but the Pentagon part has always been very fishy.