Soarer's Keyboard Controller firmware
- Halvar
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Where did you get the notion that the Teensy 2.0 is no longer produced? I just oredered and got one, and it doesn't say anything about that on the PJRC store either:
https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html
The source code for Soarer's converter is unfortunately not available. Soarer himself is not active any more, so I'm afraid a Soarer Controller for the ARM Teensies won't happen.
https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html
The source code for Soarer's converter is unfortunately not available. Soarer himself is not active any more, so I'm afraid a Soarer Controller for the ARM Teensies won't happen.
- Muirium
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Sadly yes. Soarer's controller and converter are abandonware. Excellent though they are.
I wonder if Arakula is up to releasing his implementation now? Because I'd love to run this on other chips too, and enjoy new features again.
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/soar ... t9322.html
I wonder if Arakula is up to releasing his implementation now? Because I'd love to run this on other chips too, and enjoy new features again.
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/soar ... t9322.html
- XMIT
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antonizoon please put your country of residence in your profile.
The Teensy++ 2.0 is about $20 shipped to the US - check aliexpress.com.
The Teensy++ 2.0 is about $20 shipped to the US - check aliexpress.com.
- flabbergast
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Yea, but you'd be very likely getting a counterfeit. It would most likely still work... but no money to Paul.XMIT wrote: ↑ The Teensy++ 2.0 is about $20 shipped to the US - check aliexpress.com.
- klikkyklik
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John?
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*face palm*
- seebart
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John had a lot of talent, but not ALL the talent!
- Halvar
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I need a dedicated Thank You button for Muirium's posts, please. Way too often I laugh out loud when I read them but don't have anything good enough to answer.
- XMIT
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Teensy 2.0 at mechanicalkeyboards.com:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/in ... tail&p=568
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/in ... tail&p=568
- scottc
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Thank You for this post, I agreeHalvar wrote: ↑I need a dedicated Thank You button for Muirium's posts, please. Way too often I laugh out loud when I read them but don't have anything good enough to answer.
- Eszett
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My first firmware I made/configured with Soarer's, but I had problem with creating macros. Like Pressing Fn + Enter shall effect "Strg-V" (paste). I think this isn't possible with Soarer's, so I changed over to Hasu's TMK.
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Looks like the Teensy 2.0 was just on legacy support. I guess I'll just grab one for $20.Muirium wrote: ↑Sadly yes. Soarer's controller and converter are abandonware. Excellent though they are.
I wonder if Arakula is up to releasing his implementation now? Because I'd love to run this on other chips too, and enjoy new features again.
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/soar ... t9322.html
What other keyboard controllers work on the Teensy 3.0/LC? Even if they're not as nice as Soarer's Controller, I'll try to figure them out.
- flabbergast
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These have Freescale ARM chips, not ATMEL. That's a whole different kettle of fish, so it's not easy to "port". So the only (probably, sort-of) working firmwares for them are kiibohd and TMK.antonizoon wrote: ↑What other keyboard controllers work on the Teensy 3.0/LC? Even if they're not as nice as Soarer's Controller, I'll try to figure them out.
(Note: TMK supports ARM chips via mbed, and it's so far some way from ideal - it's hard to actually compile (hasn't yet been done on OS X for instance), and the firmware does not work as expected.)
Also - none of these are targeted at Teensy 3.0/3.1/LC chips, but at a similar one which is in the infinity keyboard. So you'll need to necessarily fiddle with the sources. Some experience with arm-none-eabi-gcc toolchain is definitely recommended.
- Muirium
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True. But easier to port than a closed binary!
Bear in mind that "port" has long meant giant leaps like Amiga games going over to DOS or even the Super Nintendo! It might as well be shorthand for "support" instead. As what people mean by a port isn't code base identity but "do you have a version that will run on my…"
And we really want a finished software product. I can't build code for shit, and how I have tried! Many more interested potential users aren't as shameless as me to admit that! We want a binary. Supported by an open source dev team behind the scenes.
Bear in mind that "port" has long meant giant leaps like Amiga games going over to DOS or even the Super Nintendo! It might as well be shorthand for "support" instead. As what people mean by a port isn't code base identity but "do you have a version that will run on my…"
And we really want a finished software product. I can't build code for shit, and how I have tried! Many more interested potential users aren't as shameless as me to admit that! We want a binary. Supported by an open source dev team behind the scenes.
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- Location: UK
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It may just be me , but i am terribly confused and the documentation for this is terrible.
How do i go about remapping keys ? I want to read the current layout and change a few keys.
Is there no simple GUI utility to do this like the beamspring controller ?
How do i go about remapping keys ? I want to read the current layout and change a few keys.
Is there no simple GUI utility to do this like the beamspring controller ?
- Muirium
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Mwa hahaha!
I was very almost literally singing the praises of this documentation while you wrote that.
Have you configured Soarer's Converter before? The Controller is the same thing, with matrix driving functionality on top. To understand it, you must know the way of the Converter. Read the documentation for both.
I agree that Xwhatsit's Controller GUI is a huge improvement when you haven't yet learned a text config format. Soarer's code for scas, scwr etc. is open source and available in the OP on his Converter and Controller threads. If someone — who is not me — wants to make a GUI for his two, they everything they need right there.
I was very almost literally singing the praises of this documentation while you wrote that.
Have you configured Soarer's Converter before? The Controller is the same thing, with matrix driving functionality on top. To understand it, you must know the way of the Converter. Read the documentation for both.
I agree that Xwhatsit's Controller GUI is a huge improvement when you haven't yet learned a text config format. Soarer's code for scas, scwr etc. is open source and available in the OP on his Converter and Controller threads. If someone — who is not me — wants to make a GUI for his two, they everything they need right there.
- Muirium
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Okay, go read the Converter documentation. The key concept is that the firmware is its own little black box. You talk to it via Soarer's utilities. The most important two are scas (assemble), scwr (write).
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I had a quick look through that but scrd does nothing. I want to read the current config file that's on the controller so i don't have to re create the whole thing.
Even if i did that , how would i know what each key on the matrix is connected to ?
Even if i did that , how would i know what each key on the matrix is connected to ?
- Muirium
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There is no current config! Forget scwr. Just use scas and scwr.
What you need to do first is define a matrix. Everything else can wait. Here's the matrix definition block from my Shiny 60%:
See if you can work it out. PB0 = Teensy pin B0. The key names come from his documentation. And the whole thing might need rejiggered depending on which way around your diodes are. Go, fiddle!
Then save that as a text file, compile it with scas and write it to the Teensy with scwr.
What you need to do first is define a matrix. Everything else can wait. Here's the matrix definition block from my Shiny 60%:
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# Muirium's Shiny 60%: Mk.II
matrix
scanrate 1
debounce 5
blocking 0
sense PD0 PD1 PD2 PD3 PC6
strobe PF0 esc tab lctrl lshift fn2
strobe PF1 1 q a z lalt
strobe PF4 2 w s x lgui
strobe PF5 3 e d c unassigned
strobe PF6 4 r f v unassigned
strobe PF7 5 t g b space
strobe PB6 6 y h n unassigned
strobe PB5 7 u j m unassigned
strobe PB4 8 i k comma unassigned
strobe PD7 9 o l period rgui
strobe PB0 0 p semicolon slash ralt
strobe PB1 minus left_brace quote unassigned unassigned
strobe PB2 equal right_brace unassigned rshift rctrl
strobe PB3 backslash unassigned enter unassigned unassigned
strobe PB7 back_quote backspace unassigned fn1 pad_enter
end
Then save that as a text file, compile it with scas and write it to the Teensy with scwr.
- Muirium
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Ah, you should have said! I run Soarer's Controller on mine and know my way around it well.
What are you trying to do with it then?
What are you trying to do with it then?
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I am trying to remap Caps lock to control Right control to Windows/Command and program the tab key on my number pad as its currently not assigned to anything.
- Muirium
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- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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Does scinfo see the keyboard?
If it's showing up fine, run:
scrd andy
scdis andy andy.txt
On OS X, you need ./ right before those commands. That should read the binary config from the controller, and disassemble it into a text file in the current folder. If it works, paste the contents of andy.txt between
If it's showing up fine, run:
scrd andy
scdis andy andy.txt
On OS X, you need ./ right before those commands. That should read the binary config from the controller, and disassemble it into a text file in the current folder. If it works, paste the contents of andy.txt between
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tags here so we can see.
Oh, and you don't have any other Soarer controller/converters hooked up to your machine while you do this, right?
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ahhhh so scrd <filename> dumps the config?
Thats all i needed to know, i will get busy with this tonight .
Had another read of the documentation and to be fair to it , how to do layout and how to do macros and the likes is very good. but for the utilities i am used to linux/unix man files and how they deal with things so i must have just has a blond moment.
Its still got nothing on the arch linux wiki however , thats some seriously good documentation, second only to IBM in the system 360 days. I mean who else gives a full logic diagram for the whole system and net-lists for every single chip. Crazy! IBM MAPS ( Maintenance Analysis procedures) are incredible , the little booklet in my beamspring some and they are Yes No problem solving guide that will diagnose anything , from "is it plugged in" to if the voltage on this test point is between x and y do this , if its between z and q test this and so on , amazing documentation
Thats all i needed to know, i will get busy with this tonight .
Had another read of the documentation and to be fair to it , how to do layout and how to do macros and the likes is very good. but for the utilities i am used to linux/unix man files and how they deal with things so i must have just has a blond moment.
Its still got nothing on the arch linux wiki however , thats some seriously good documentation, second only to IBM in the system 360 days. I mean who else gives a full logic diagram for the whole system and net-lists for every single chip. Crazy! IBM MAPS ( Maintenance Analysis procedures) are incredible , the little booklet in my beamspring some and they are Yes No problem solving guide that will diagnose anything , from "is it plugged in" to if the voltage on this test point is between x and y do this , if its between z and q test this and so on , amazing documentation
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- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
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Got it, time to play!
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# length: 176
# signature: S C
# version: 1 3
# block length: 9
ifset any
ifkeyboard any
ifselect any
# configblock
# config count: 3
led caps -PB3
led scroll -PB2
led num -PB4
# end
# block length: 161
ifset any
ifkeyboard any
ifselect any
matrix
scanrate 1
strobe_mode 0
sense_polarity 0
debounce 5
blocking 1
debounce_method 0
sense_delay 1
sense PA4 PA5 PA6 PA7 PC7 PC6 PC5 PC4 PC3 PC2 PC1 PC0 PE1 PE0 PD7 PD5
strobe PB5 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED B SPACE N UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED SLASH DOWN RIGHT PAD_MINUS LEFT RALT
strobe PB6 RCTRL RSHIFT Z X C V ENTER M COMMA PERIOD UNASSIGNED NUM_LOCK PAD_SLASH PAD_ASTERIX PAUSE UNASSIGNED
strobe PB7 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED A S D F BACKSLASH J K L SEMICOLON PAD_1 PAD_2 PAD_3 PAD_ENTER UNASSIGNED
strobe PE4 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED Q W E R UNASSIGNED U I O P PAD_7 PAD_8 PAD_9 PAD_PLUS SCROLL_LOCK
strobe PE5 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED 1 2 3 4 F10 7 8 9 0 F11 F12 PAGE_DOWN END PRINTSCREEN
strobe PD0 LCTRL UNASSIGNED BACK_QUOTE F1 F2 5 F9 6 EQUAL F8 MINUS DELETE INSERT PAGE_UP HOME UNASSIGNED
strobe PD1 UNASSIGNED LSHIFT TAB CAPS_LOCK F3 T BACKSPACE Y RIGHT_BRACE F7 LEFT_BRACE PAD_4 PAD_5 PAD_6 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED
strobe PD4 UNASSIGNED UNASSIGNED ESC UNASSIGNED F4 G F5 H F6 UNASSIGNED QUOTE UNASSIGNED PAD_0 PAD_PERIOD UP LALT
end
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I can now TAB from my number pad woo hoo!
This works quite well if not a bit confusing with the text file, do you know how the compiler picks up the keys you assign, for example can i do a tab or space between them in the text file for easy human reading ?
This works quite well if not a bit confusing with the text file, do you know how the compiler picks up the keys you assign, for example can i do a tab or space between them in the text file for easy human reading ?