Unacceptable lies perpetrated by --Rootwyrm--

[adhoc]

Oh yeah, I remember your name from GH. Check the brexit thread.

[seebart]

Tp4 only uses the Ergodox.. the One true keyboard..

Hmm I see.

Spoiler:

That was a psychological trick question with which you evaluated yourself.

Very expensive, very specific. No compromise? Ever?

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 only uses the Ergodox.. the One true keyboard..

Hmm I see.

Spoiler:

That was a psychological trick question with which you evaluated yourself.

Very expensive, very specific. No compromise? Ever?

Ergodox is definitely not an expensive keyboard.. they got all that aluminum stuff which cost way more.

[chuckdee]

Yet we never speak of Ivan who ran with over $10.000 , he is in the "shit happens area"

@drinking stuff: in Romania we do that to the bottles, the big ones, it adds some protection and you get also a nice handle to hold the bottle while drinking like a pig

Well, yea which is why --Rootwyrm-- is such a dirt bag... He's saying Berserkfan was unresponsive, fleeing and scamming..

All the while it was --Rootwyrm-- that pushed the situation into an impossible state for Berserkfan to fix the shipping errors..

But.. he is unresponsive. Has been from the start. But you try to justify him being non-responsive until I posted the dispute. You say that he told me not to post a dispute- but he didn't communicate until I did.

That's the crux of why it pisses me off, and it really shouldn't. As I said, you do you, and I'll do me.

But I will say that by attacking the people giving the argument (i.e. me) instead of attacking the argument, you're doing yourself no favors. No one has said he intentionally started out to defraud anyone. Can you provide evidence- hard evidence, not words- to the contrary? Rather than attacking me and saying random stuff?

You talk about champions and such- and yourself being a champion. If you want to characterize yourself that way, more power to you. But everyone else sees the truth. We're just people that like keyboards that entered into an agreement with Berserkfan that he did not satisfy. That's a matter of fact, and indisputable. We just want what we paid for. That's reasonable. I know in my case, I didn't want anything other than what I ordered. So your response that someone might have had something I wanted instead is disingenuous at best.

You talk about it not being a joke to anyone involved. I'm more involved and affected than you ever were. Proxy shipping is something that makes you involved? That's the joke.

Getting back to facts, can we agree on this definition since you take unintentional fraud to task in some way?


1. The making of a statement of material fact that the person should know was not true or did not know the truth of the matter asserted.

2. The plaintiff has relied on that statement of material fact to his or her detriment, and the reliance was reasonable under the circumstances.

3. The statement made by the defendant turned out to be false.

4. As a result of the false statement and the reliance on it, the plaintiff suffered damages.

5. Damages.

There it is. Negligent misrepresentation.


And keep to the facts, by all that's holy if you want to have a conversation. And quit with the editing of replies to suit your arguments. And leave me as a person out of it. I'm no champion. I'm just a man that wanted some keycaps that were being offered at very good prices, and when it became apparent that I was not going to get my order, did everything legal and within my power to get restitution. And took exception to your attacking based on supposition and unsupported statements one (and now it seems both) of the only people who were doing anything, or had any desire to do anything.

[seebart]

OK fine. I don't even know Ergodox on bit, I'm sure it's great. Only ergo I own is the Apple adjustable.

[tp4tissue]

Yet we never speak of Ivan who ran with over $10.000 , he is in the "shit happens area"

@drinking stuff: in Romania we do that to the bottles, the big ones, it adds some protection and you get also a nice handle to hold the bottle while drinking like a pig

Well, yea which is why --Rootwyrm-- is such a dirt bag... He's saying Berserkfan was unresponsive, fleeing and scamming..

All the while it was --Rootwyrm-- that pushed the situation into an impossible state for Berserkfan to fix the shipping errors..

But.. he is unresponsive. Has been from the start. But you try to justify him being non-responsive until I posted the dispute. You say that he told me not to post a dispute- but he didn't communicate until I did.

No one has said he intentionally started out to defraud anyone. Can you provide evidence- hard evidence, not words- to the contrary? Rather than attacking me and saying random stuff?

Group buys take months sometimes to respond. your expectation of instantaneous response was unreasonable.

At the Time when --Rootwyrm-- n some others DEMANDED a response, not all of the packages have arrived. Berserk fan was still sorting through PMs at the time (with no PM search function on Geekhack), to figure out who ordered what, and what would it cost to mail things where..

He was not at the time prioritizing personal grievances because NOTHING was possible on that end even if he responded. Packages Didn't Get There Yet...

Yes, you were able to force him to respond by beginning the dispute process, but this was to the Detriment of everyone as I've already explained.. that it has taken away Berserkfan's ability to manage payments and allocations through paypal..

AS FOR: No one has said he intentionally started out to defraud anyone.

To Quote: -Rootwyrm-

"Bezerkfan stole and made away with more than $6,170.50 USD."

"This means his profitable take based on the evidence at hand is at least $4,690.50 US"

"How fast I can tip Treasury off to possible money laundering in Southeast Asia."

"beyond difficult for many folks by refusing to concede that they have a seller that engaged in widescale fraud. "

Ffff... Off.. Really? tell me again how --Rootwyrm-- didn't say those things.. omg, so sorry, he didn't accuse Berserkfan of a scam at all.. This has all been a ruse... --Rootwyrm actually loves Berserkfan, and they're best buddies, and they hold hands.


ALL of these allegations are FALSE..

--Rootwyrm-- is altering and twisting the facts to suit his own personal paypal claim... Including making up bullshit numbers, not only are they inaccurate, they don't even account for the sales process or inventory.

And YOU GUYS, skysphoric// chuckdee// etc// have banded with that terrible malignant..

HE.. is a LIAR.. and ALL OF YOU, as a whole are the problem..

[chuckdee]

Did he get that much? The spreadsheet is only what was reported to Root. And getting a total is pretty easy once you look at what people are reporting.

So, the next question - Is he prepared to give it back in restitution?

And inventory costs? Is he a business now?

[seebart]

Looks like this thread is really coming along nicely...

[Muirium]

Checks back in after dinner. Still sees a lot of incoherent, adolescent and wholly purposeless shouting.

This isn't serving anyone, fellas. I sure as shit am having no business dealings with any of you!

[tp4tissue]

Did he get that much? Is he prepared to give it back in restitution? And inventory? Is he a business now?

I am not aware of the total, Berserkfan is not aware of the total, because he didn't even finish counting before you guys bludgeoned his paypal into oblivion..

He can't even give back the money now, because the entire process to correct shipping and settle with buyers is frozen..

He can realistically only wait for Paypal collections to knock on the door and pay them..

No, he does not have a business account..

And the Inventory is now in limbo, because of the mess you guys have made..

In the beginning , Berserkfan was budgeting around $2000 for all the shipping swaps and settlements..

Berserkfan has also lost credit with the users, BY --Rootwyrm--'s hands and you guys siding against him,

This makes the users/buyers even less likely to come forward at this point if they got a bonus package with expensive stuff VS the greater possibility of righteous doing in the beginning of the process when Everyone was more amicable..

[seebart]

I think this thread is one for the books...what can unfold after a GB goes...berzerk.

[tp4tissue]

Checks back in after dinner. Still sees a lot of incoherent, adolescent and wholly purposeless shouting.

This isn't serving anyone, fellas. I sure as shit am having no business dealings with any of you!

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78667.0

[tp4tissue]

I think this thread is one for the books...what can unfold after a GB goes...berzerk.

OH shit.... son.. oh man... digital high five.. OH GOD>. that is good... !!


See what our minds can accomplish when we come together.. My crazy + your wit.. = great things.

[Muirium]

Nah. Not coherent enough for any outsider to understand. Where are all the customers voices? Oh yeah: NOT HERE. Becuase this thread is on the wrong fucking forum.

[tp4tissue]

Nah. Not coherent enough for any outsider to understand. Where are all the customers voices? Oh yeah: NOT HERE. Becuase this thread is on the wrong fucking forum.

That has been squarely outside of my control...

[Muirium]

I can fix that. Would you like me to delete this whole farce of a thread?

[tp4tissue]

Did he get that much? Is he prepared to give it back in restitution? And inventory? Is he a business now?

I am not aware of the total, Berserkfan is not aware of the total, because he didn't even finish counting before you guys bludgeoned his paypal into oblivion..

He can't even give back the money now, because the entire process to correct shipping and settle with buyers is frozen..

He can realistically only wait for Paypal collections to knock on the door and pay them..

No, he does not have a business account..

And the Inventory is now in limbo, because of the mess you guys have made..

In the beginning , Berserkfan was budgeting around $2000 for all the shipping swaps and settlements..

Berserkfan has also lost credit with the users, BY --Rootwyrm--'s hands and you guys siding against him,

This makes the users/buyers even less likely to come forward at this point if they got a bonus package with expensive stuff .. VS the greater possibility of righteous-doing happening in the beginning of the process when Everyone was more amicable..

[seebart]

I can fix that. Would you like me to delete this whole farce of a thread?

Yes, please.

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[tp4tissue]

I can fix that. Would you like me to delete this whole farce of a thread?

That's unfair Muirium.

This was done to preserve the truth, and uncover the lies and deceit perpetrated by User -- Rootwyrm--

I apologize for dropping such a serious and ugly matter on DT so un-announced.. but I had no alternative..

This thread is also at least relevant to shed light on the TRUTH for the DT members who may have purchased something from Berserkfan's sale here on DT.

[chuckdee]

I can fix that. Would you like me to delete this whole farce of a thread?

It's an echo chamber anyway. It would help me with my seemingly pathological need to engage with him.

[Muirium]

This thread isn't telling anyone anything. It's a mess. And it's far, far away. I reckon we'd be better off without it. What's the mob's view?

[seebart]

I already expressed my view per PM to you and admins yesterday! BUT now there is a actually ton of content present, seems more hardcore to delete it now.

[Muirium]

I had more hope it would peter out yesterday. Nope. And to be frank, this is a wankstain on DT in my opinion. So I'm wondering aloud what you lot think, too.

[tp4tissue]

I can fix that. Would you like me to delete this whole farce of a thread?

It's an echo chamber anyway. It would help me with my seemingly pathological need to engage with him.

This entire time, You guys have no evidence to call it a fraud.. The sale was bad, and shipments damned.. but nothing truly indicates fraud..

Yet, --Rootwyrm-- have continued to banter and chastise Berserkfan with non-ceasing insults and disparagement..


Berserkfan is a Good Person, an Upstanding Person, a Compassionate Individual.

He's helped others with loans when they were in need (Dorkvador)..

He's brought provocative and insightful political discussions..

He's honored ALL sales agreements on record..

[Muirium]

Where is this guy? I am not aware of him at DT. And I don't think we have any role to play as hosts for external grievances.

(Insert fluffer joke here.)

[Matt_]

This thread isn't telling anyone anything. It's a mess. And it's far, far away. I reckon we'd be better off without it. What's the mob's view?

What's user -Rootwyrm- thinking about this?

I bet he's pressing you to silence the TRUTH by deleting this thread.

(but yeah, this nonsense probably does more harm than good)

[chuckdee]

Where is this guy? I am not aware of him at DT. And I don't think we have any role to play as hosts for external grievances.

(Insert fluffer joke here.)

He has an account here:

rootwyrm-u10751/

But he's not a regular poster. He's been on here since this started, but hasn't felt the need to post. Which I should be taking note of.

All of his posts were in the All Done thread, to post for the benefit of Deskthority members that might have been involved in the sale.

Take that for what you will.

I don't agree with all of what he says, and can look at that objectively. He's been quite vociferous at times in his pursuit. But his spreadsheet, which was gathered from all respondents, has been quite useful, which is the only reason I felt inclined to respond, as this campaign threatens that collection of the evidence at hand.

[DanielT]

And when Ivan pulled a Houdini everybody was understanding and I see no lynch mob, my guess is people still think they will get their stuff from 3 GB's so they don't want to upset the mighty esteemed GB organizer

Shit, we better talk about drinks

[Muirium]

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not involved in the Ivan thing. He was a solid GB organizer for a good while, but took quite the turn there. Supposedly some people are still getting their stuff trickle through. But, at a distance, I don't know whether this is Stockholm Syndrome like you suggest!

[tp4tissue]

This thread isn't telling anyone anything. It's a mess. And it's far, far away. I reckon we'd be better off without it. What's the mob's view?

What's user -Rootwyrm- thinking about this?

I bet he's pressing you to silence the TRUTH by deleting this thread.

--Rootwyrm-- has been silent, because he has NO grounds to stand on..

I've thoroughly dismantled all of his farcical statements about Berserkfan..

The ultimate reason why that has been possible is because Berserkfan Is Not a Scammer..

He has a long history of successful transactions..



--Rootwyrm-- has also made personal attacks against myself saying I harrassed a member who passed away tragically years ago, by slandering him in his memorial thread.. ALSO an allegation which is untrue..


--Rootwyrm-- is clearly that type of psychopath who will say absolutely anything to get his way, he has no regard for the truth..