Brexit: The DT Poll

[adhoc]

Sorry, I missed that post. Here's an explicit thanks.

I don't mind learning a new thing or to be corrected at all, if that's what you're getting at.

[seebart]

@seebart not yet, but you sure are working on it!

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[adhoc]

56k? Pffft, good enough for shitposting in off topic section of deskthority! I'll take it!

[seebart]

Off topic? Where? That could be censorship adhoc!

[adhoc]

Mate, I understand you're so used to censorship in movies, games, literarure and online you practically love it, but it's a foreign concept to some of us, who still live in a free country.

[Muirium]

Free? But you Slovenes are in the EU!

[adhoc]

Free? But you Slovenes are in the EU!

Quiet, you! Or I'll have you arrested for having weapons such as kitchen knife, screwdriver and hammer at home!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/po ... 56626.html

[Muirium]

No one in their right mind pretends Britain is "free". We're far too civil for all that dreadful nonsense! (Even us Scots who can't seem to figure our way out this damn paper bag of a country.)

[adhoc]

Would you say you once were? How did the change happen? It didn't happen so slow you failed to even realize it before it was too late, did it?

[Muirium]

Britain is a feudal state. Look at the House of Lords. That shit isn't just show here. It's the law.

So no. We never were. There was no loss.

[adhoc]

Well, I'd say UK is in fact a free country, but it's also a nanny state. Am I really idiotic, as you put it, if I dislike living in a nanny state?

From you, of all people, who said you love the US, where anything goes.

Except evolution, lol.

[seebart]

Yeah anything goes in the US, especially for the NSA. Do you really think it's safe to openly post here adhoc?

[adhoc]

Yeah anything goes in the US, especially for the NSA. Do you really think it's safe to openly post here adhoc?

Now THATS funny coming from a German!

[seebart]

So you think that all Germans are spying on you, or just me?

[Muirium]

Britain is so "free" that the press can be blocked from publishing stories not just for national security reasons, but also because rich celebrities won't allow them. Heard of super injunctions? Google will entertain and inform you on that one.

This place is a fucking mess, constitutionally. Britain is the apotheosis of business as usual, don't look there old chap, stay calm and carry on. The secret services here are globally notorious. We the people can't select our head of state, and indeed even the referendum this thread is about can be overturned by parliament, as some of its mouthiest opponents there have foolishly started bragging about. Such freedom!

(Fuck me. Is searching the Newstatesman an exercise in pain. If I stumble into the article in my history back home I'll give a link. That site's designers…)

Yet it does kinda sorta mostly work. Which is why most Scots, by a whisker, chose to stay in instead of play dice with their jobs. And I imagine the EU would be pleased to get anywhere near the same age as this Union, with as broken institutions, naked contempt of its people, breathtaking social injustice, and yet a grudging sense of pride in itself, still intact!

[adhoc]

"The BND has been reported to store 220 million sets of metadata every day."

http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/ ... ettansicht

And UK's one is even worse. It spies on people worldwide, I don't have the exact numbers though.

[seebart]

Do me a favor a gooooogle "Tempora" and "GHCQ" adhoc. That's how "free" Britain is. How much data do you think Slovenia stores?

[Muirium]

So efficient aren't we! But where are all the arrests? Why is Marine Le Pen neither in jail nor rotting in a ditch? Etc etc.

Spooks are a fraud. If they could do a fraction of what they like people to believe they can, simpletons like Saddam, the Kim dynasty, and Assad would scarcely need to be evicted with force or allowed to rule as they do. The way Osama bin Laden was found was via a bloody informant claiming a cash reward, and the specials even made a great steaming mess of the hit! Ugh.


@Seebart: GCHQ. Not a typo friendly search. You should consider a real keyboard someday!

[adhoc]

Oh yeah, I'm fully aware that Germany is a virgin compared to the surveillance whore that the UK is. Still, ... you know.

Slovenia's BND counterpart is very well known for using spying devices ilegally. Just a former Yugoslavian shithole, I would expect no less.

You can not take Germany and compare it to Slovenia. We're a shithole, you're not.

EDIT: Ugh, that Alps sting. Are you just gonna sit there and take it seebart?!!

[seebart]

What Alps sting? And please don't call yourself a "shithole". The only Alps I care about are from Alps Electric in Japan!

[Muirium]

Brits adore a good spook. Those daft 007 movies are a central part of the English mythos. If an intelligence gathering empire is the best we can do, so be it. To the datacentre!

[adhoc]

What Alps sting? And please don't call yourself a "shithole". The only Alps I care about are from Alps Electric in Japan!

You missed Mu's smack talk on Alps

No, no, shithole is quite appropriate for Slovenia. We have beautiful nature - but every country can say that for itself. We also did NOTHING to get it, so ...

Brits adore a good spook. Those daft 007 movies are a central part of the English mythos. If an intelligence gathering empire is the best we can do, so be it. To the datacentre!

But seriously, for someone who produced black books, blackadder and monty python, these movies are a shame. Such a shame.

[seebart]

Mu will not shit talk Alps switches of any kind you can be sure of that.

[adhoc]

Mu will not shit talk Alps switches of any kind you can be sure of that.

@Seebart: GCHQ. Not a typo friendly search. You should consider a real keyboard someday!

[seebart]

I don't care I'm on Glass, that was test for you. And you don't need to google it anyway since you already know how much you're being "listened" to! Google is a nice one, you actually use it? Not very safe to put it mildly.

[adhoc]

Google what? GCHQ? I did, and I also knew about it beforehand. Tempora? Check.

I care about privacy so much, I opted out of using all social media. On the other hand, half of deskthority has my address and full name, so yeah.

They can listen a they want, I'm a boring man anyway. But that's a shitty argument that shouldn't be used to celebrate censorship and spying, damn it!

[seebart]

So do you think I'm a German "celebrating censorship"?

[kbdfr]

"The BND has been reported to store 220 million sets of metadata every day."

http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/ ... ettansicht

Yes, they do.
And as they are, as Zeit correctly report, "Germany’s foreign intelligence agency",
they collect data stemming from "foreign dialled traffic".

Well, DT is not in Germany (that would be .de), but somewhere in the virtual world (.net)

That might fall under "foreign dialled traffic", so you better be careful what you post

[adhoc]

So do you think I'm a German "celebrating censorship"?

No, I think you just don't really care about it.

[seebart]

So do you think I'm a German "celebrating censorship"?

No, I think you just don't really care about it.

I'd say being aware of the situation is just as important.