Brexit: The DT Poll

[BimboBB]

Of course each government nominates someone from their own party (or coalition), so each Commissioner reflects the political majority of their own country. It would be foolish to assume that once in function, they will completely change their mind about anything.

It would be foolish to believe that any commissioner is not following the EU agenda (whatever direction it is) and I cannot even blame them...because no any mandate at all, no any consequences....they can literally do what they want.

When you say nobody can "influence this elitist group and their agenda", you are partly right and partly wrong.
Right because once in function, they must be free to decide without having to obey those who sent them there,
wrong because of course, lobbyists have far more implicit power than they should be allowed to (seebart, here again).
But the latter has nothing to do with the EU - it's a pest in the whole world.

They have to obey to nobody and they have to fear no consequences, thats the scary thing. My national government has to make at least sure, they get voted again every 4 years.

[chuckdee]

Wanting to leave the EU - racist.

Nah. First of all, it's an incorrect use of the word- bigoted would probably be a better word. And indeed, that was what the Brexit faction used as a basis for their win- the fear of immigration and how it was affecting the UK. That's what the leave voters were sold. Then they got it home, and realized that's not what they bought.

[kbdfr]

[…] It would be foolish to believe that any commissioner is not following the EU agenda (whatever direction it is) and I cannot even blame them...because no any mandate at all, no any consequences....they can literally do what they want.

Of course not. EU legislation is subject to approval by the European Parliament.

[…] They have to obey to nobody and they have to fear no consequences, thats the scary thing. My national government has to make at least sure, they get voted again every 4 years.

Your national government having per definitionem a majority in Parliament, their law proposals are always accepted, so no risk except hypothetically losing votes in the next election (but certainly not decisively because of a certain law).
It is true that EU Commissioners have to fear little to no personal consequences, but who cares as long as their law proposals can be rejected by the European Parliament?

[adhoc]

Wanting to leave the EU - racist.

Nah. First of all, it's an incorrect use of the word- bigoted would probably be a better word. And indeed, that was what the Brexit faction used as a basis for their win- the fear of immigration and how it was affecting the UK. That's what the leave voters were sold. Then they got it home, and realized that's not what they bought.

It LITERALLY says racist in the comic. o.O

[webwit]

Nah. First of all, it's an incorrect use of the word- bigoted would probably be a better word. And indeed, that was what the Brexit faction used as a basis for their win- the fear of immigration and how it was affecting the UK. That's what the leave voters were sold. Then they got it home, and realized that's not what they bought.

Nah, that's just what the bigoted fearful Remaniacs say, trying to re-engineer the vote. With childish, polarising "we're the good guys, they're the bad guys" rhetoric. Just as their overlords brainwashed them to: don't listen to the other side, fear them.

[adhoc]

You're either with us, or literally Hitler!

[BimboBB]

[…] It would be foolish to believe that any commissioner is not following the EU agenda (whatever direction it is) and I cannot even blame them...because no any mandate at all, no any consequences....they can literally do what they want.

Of course not. EU legislation is subject to approval by the European Parliament.

[…] They have to obey to nobody and they have to fear no consequences, thats the scary thing. My national government has to make at least sure, they get voted again every 4 years.

Your national government having per definitionem a majority in Parliament, their law proposals are always accepted, so no risk except hypothetically losing votes in the next election (but certainly not decisively because of a certain law).
It is true that EU Commissioners have to fear little to no personal consequences, but who cares as long as their law proposals can be rejected by the European Parliament?

Thats true. Nonetheless its quite a step back from where we have been already. Just think about why you vote a certain party...its usually about their general direction and you hope to see progress in that direction when you vote them. While having the legislation power solely in an unelected and completely independent institution like the EU commission, voting for a EU parliament party is more or less useless, as they have no power to initiate anything, even if there would be a majority. On the other side, EU commission just needs to wait for the "perfect time" or composition of the EU parliament to bring up certain law initiatives.

[chuckdee]

Wanting to leave the EU - racist.

Nah. First of all, it's an incorrect use of the word- bigoted would probably be a better word. And indeed, that was what the Brexit faction used as a basis for their win- the fear of immigration and how it was affecting the UK. That's what the leave voters were sold. Then they got it home, and realized that's not what they bought.

It LITERALLY says racist in the comic. o.O

You didn't refer to that post, i.e. the comic, but rather posted it as a separate non-related statement. See redmaus' response right before you. If you were going to come back with that, you might have followed his example. And, there's also the fact that it's a political comic. Those aren't generally known for subtlety.

[adhoc]

Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was self evident, considering I was using same expressions. I don't like people quoting pictures, because then you get those quote pyramids.

But yeah, I DID refer to that post.