The first pass was gorgoeus (razor sharp). The next two passes were a deflected mess, and caused the excessive rounding. To clean up char, I would just likely throw the batch in a mesh net and run through the washer.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑It looks like you even got some charring on that test piece. Burn, baby, burn!
Comments above in bluePOTV wrote: ↑Will they only be made in the us?
They will be made in the US (aside from the PCB/controller), but we will send across the pond as sea freight to a Euro proxy to disperse and save on international shipping
What is the expected price?
We will be sub $150 for either the Full-size and SSK "kits", minus the salvaged switches. I'll know exact numbers once the final designs are hardened... we are close. This is being run as a non-profit buy. Any surplus we take in will reduce end shipping costs, or will be refunded
Will there be enough for all DT-members?
The only limited commodity are the salvaged switches. There should be enough for 50-100 boards in the end (I have news from Cindy I'll post very soon... It's goodness), with preference being given to contributors in the project, followed by club members, then followers of this thread, and finally the general DT populous.
(And what if the potential buyers supply their own F-switches?)
The hope is many are able to supply their own switches. We will be able to produce as many "kits minus switches" as we like. We will run the group buy in the coming weeks for approximately a month (at least until the switches are accounted for). Based on prior polling, half of everyone interested would be able to supply their own switches, so expect 100-200 "kits" being produced
Exactly. A "switch" would be the flipper (spring and attached paddle) and the barrel. So if you have those, the "kit" will have the rest of the inner assembly. Our goal with Phase 1 is still to let you turn an existing Model M into an F by replacing everything except the case and keycaps.Hypersphere wrote: ↑If we supply our own switches, what will we need? I am assuming that a "switch" would be a barrel, spring, and flipper from an IBM Model F keyboard, such as an IBM XT keyboard. Is this correct?
:drool: Where's the drooling smiley? Hmm...lot_lizard wrote: ↑ So basically the final version of everything you see in the following make up a complete "kit with switches". Like the switches, all of these parts will be offered "ala-carte". Cables are not shown, but would be available as well. Lots of color and connection options along the way.
Exactly right. Every part (there are many) will be available as individual quantities (spare top plate in a different color... whatever). The "kit" is just to make the order process easy. We will also be placing orders to Unicomp on anyone's behalf to save you some shipping there if interested if you need spares of theirs for anything (more intriguing to the international folks).regack wrote: ↑So when you say 'à la carte' would I just be able to pick up 10 more (barrels+flippers) to get to 84 w/a few spares?
Check out this post from a few pages back : viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13796&p=327410#p327410
The trouble is with the controller on the bottom. You'd need some sort of shield for the controller, as well as a receptacle for the connector board, all of which basically means that you'd need the bottom of the case anyways, unless a custom part was made.BinaryHalibut wrote: ↑Huh, for those of us too poor to have an SSK case, two adhesive rubber feet on the bottom plus two capped bolts up top actually looks to be a pretty good system.
Looking forward to this
I mean, as long as you aren't shoving it in your backpack or something the controller should be fine hanging there. And I think the xwhatsit has a micro usb connection on it anyways, so the connector board isn't even needed if using it caseless.drevyek wrote: ↑ The trouble is with the controller on the bottom. You'd need some sort of shield for the controller, as well as a receptacle for the connector board, all of which basically means that you'd need the bottom of the case anyways, unless a custom part was made.
Another option, what I've done, is to cut down an M case to the SSK form factor. Unicomp sells spare M cases for pretty cheap, and all you'd need else is a dremel or saw. It isn't too tough, but requires a bit of patience with the plastic.
Fortunately for most (but not for us with original PCBs), the new controller and PCB won't be interchangeable with the original version. The real reason is because we are changing the connector pitch from .156 to .100. The previous PCB will work perfectly fine with everything else, but you will still need the legacy F xWhatsit if you are planning to reuse the original PCB.alh84001 wrote: ↑I'm asking because I would like to reuse my PCB for this project, since it has a relatively low serial number, but I would also like the benefits of the slot connector.
No reason it wouldn't work well. It is on the same tangent as the Phase 2 "floating board" idea. There the controller would live inside the stand, with the stand being hidden from most angles.BinaryHalibut wrote: ↑I mean, as long as you aren't shoving it in your backpack or something the controller should be fine hanging there. And I think the xwhatsit has a micro usb connection on it anyways, so the connector board isn't even needed if using it caseless.
That said, it's not a great option. Just an option. And the stainless steel floating-key look isn't half bad.
Since I created the "naked" option a couple of years ago, I use this F-122 far more than I use the ones with the cases.BinaryHalibut wrote: ↑
And the stainless steel floating-key look isn't half bad.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about that. Thanks.wcass wrote: ↑The original PCB has controller pins set at 0.156" pitch. Then new controller has pins set at 0.1" pitch with some notches left, right and between rows and columns. I'll post a drawing of the top of PCB later.
