(Model MF) Remodeling the Model M (aka.. the Mara)
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Ooh, yeah, I'd love a couple of those, for sure!
- Techno Trousers
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Sure, that's the way they did it, but thanks to wcass and his white LEDs+gels, we won't have to work nearly so hard to pimp out our MFs.Mr.Nobody wrote:@ Techno Pants,
I took it apart,there are actually red green and blue LED indicators under the case.
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Yes, it's easier to switch Gels...
Amber LED+industrial grey+black overlay=classy looking!
Green and Amber conveys a stronger vintage feeling maybe because originally monochrome monitors used to adopt these two colors.
Amber LED+industrial grey+black overlay=classy looking!
Green and Amber conveys a stronger vintage feeling maybe because originally monochrome monitors used to adopt these two colors.
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You are right lot_lizard,lot_lizard wrote: ↑Agreed... I think he found the picture somewhere, along with a link to Webwit's stash at one point at leastemdude wrote: ↑That M13-style overlay looks pretty spiffy on the industrial case.
It looks like the same overlay on the M13 too, did giokkkk use a graphic or template to have it made?
it was taken from and old FS thread on Deskthority:
f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/my-diy-model-m-industrial-t2328.html
Furthermore,
nfc did a mod using some low emission amber led, I'll have to check still which type of led he used:
workshop-f7/ibm-model-m-industrial-home ... t1748.html
- seebart
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Yeah I remember that pic from the Duck sale, man I'd love to get one of these for my M's:
- wcass
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I'm sure that I can replicate the artwork ... need to check "graphic overlay" vendors to see if we can find one to do a low volume run at a reasonable price.
- lot_lizard
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I have someone down the road from me that I contacted initially on the phone, and sent an email but never heard back. I sent him the original image URL (that was obviously broken). He said that 50+ would be "reasonable". This is exactly what they do (small custom work... mostly for medical equipment). If you worked up the graphic for it, I would recontact. If you Google "custom led overlay", they would be the second search resultwcass wrote: ↑I'm sure that I can replicate the artwork ... need to check "graphic overlay" vendors to see if we can find one to do a low volume run at a reasonable price.
http://www.dyna-graphics.com/graphic-overlays
- Techno Trousers
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That would be excellent. Maybe add a small and tasteful MF logo to the overlay?
- lot_lizard
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I thought it would be fun in a corner as well. Problem with that is we limit the scope of interest. We'll seeTechno Trousers wrote: ↑That would be excellent. Maybe add a small and tasteful MF logo to the overlay?
- emdude
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I think some sort of dark/desaturated blue and pebble color combination would look good with blue-label Model Ms.
It might also be neat to get the relatively plain overlay of the 42H1292 Model Ms (with centered LEDs) in the pebble/dark gray style, with borders, of earlier Model Ms.
It might also be neat to get the relatively plain overlay of the 42H1292 Model Ms (with centered LEDs) in the pebble/dark gray style, with borders, of earlier Model Ms.
- Techno Trousers
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I suppose the original font was Helvetica? I'd like to see how that compares to the Arial. Like lot_lizard said about the logo, we need to be careful to keep broad appeal. That said, I'd be interested in seeing these combos:
Dark gray with black border
Black with dark gray border
Black on black (?) Basically like the original
Each of the above combos with white text and amber text. Not sure if the amber text will look good, but it seems worth a try since we all seem to be in agreement that we <3 the amber LED look with industrial cases.
Dark gray with black border
Black with dark gray border
Black on black (?) Basically like the original
Each of the above combos with white text and amber text. Not sure if the amber text will look good, but it seems worth a try since we all seem to be in agreement that we <3 the amber LED look with industrial cases.
- lot_lizard
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Had a little package waiting on me at the house. They look great WCass. Anxious to try all the LED configurations out this weekend in our designated little areas on the PCB you made. This is the fun stuff
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IBM used a (then common) Helvetica variant that featured balanced rounding and slim text. At first I thought it only existed in a physical type, but I have (!) very few ThinkPads that used this less common Helvetica variant! So it does exist digitally somewhere. When I get time I can snap photos to show the extreme differences between the normal (harsh edged) Helvetica and the specially-picked-by-Paul-Rand-Helvetica-that-I-wish-I-knew-the-name-of.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑I suppose the original font was Helvetica?
- lot_lizard
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WCass... mind mocking up something like this for later? It would be the minority case I think, but I would like in the something I have planned in the future for the dark giokkk badge. The font would be Helvetica if you could. The second image is an example of what I am shooting for I think for a limited run.
EDIT: And while we are at it... I suppose it makes sense to consider the AT LED font. It's a bit mincy for my taste, but some might prefer
EDIT: And while we are at it... I suppose it makes sense to consider the AT LED font. It's a bit mincy for my taste, but some might prefer
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Why do people fuck with perfectly good fonts .
And why do people think its ok to use a serif font on a screen ! And a none serif font in a book, they are different for a reason you know
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Because HelveticaNeueW02-45Ligh that's why.andrewjoy wrote: ↑Why do people fuck with perfectly good fonts .
I still vote for Comic Sans - huge benefit is that it's so ugly there's only one variant.
What, you mean Times New Roman is NOT a good onscreen font???andrewjoy wrote: ↑And why do people think its ok to use a serif font on a screen ! And a none serif font in a book, they are different for a reason you know
Sans-serif in a book looks OK in titles, actually. Hell, sans-serif looks great anywhere horizontal space is cheap!
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Preference really isn't it? Of course there is common usage for various reasons.
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IBM was flipping HUGE on user experience on all fronts back in the day. If they screwed with it I'd bet they had studies to back up why they did it.
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Nothing that simple.ohaimark wrote: ↑They wanted to differentiate their brand, most likely.
- Techno Trousers
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Let's try Papyrus too! It'll give it that Avatar look.DMA wrote: I still vote for Comic Sans - huge benefit is that it's so ugly there's only one variant.
- lot_lizard
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Not that anyone would, I feel I should tell folks because they might do something silly with their XT or BigFoot as part of our phase 1 GB if you salvaged them for barrels for the MF. Do not plan on disposing of them, or parting them out further in any way. We would like to wait to announce something later where they are potentially repurposed, and you will would be very happy if you held onto them. I know that is vague, but it is meant to be until more research is done. Just thought a heads up might save someone from a bad decision
- lot_lizard
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Thanks Wingpad... They look great. Very well run buy
- Techno Trousers
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Fohat's right on top!
- lot_lizard
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Something just came to me... Pending the timing for the delivery of all the products to me, I think I might have time print up a mini version of the tool I made for reattaching the springs to the flipper paddles. Mine did 10 at a time and worked quite well (no design changes needed really), but we could print a single spring version pretty easy that would require only a little bit of filament per tool. I would just need to create STLs for it.
Each tool (jig) needs just two parts:
Each tool (jig) needs just two parts:
- the base to hold the flipper securely in alignment
- the plunger used to compress the spring onto the flipper paddle peg