White vs Clear vs Clicky Clear 2.0
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
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As some of you might have noticed from this topic, Cherry White switches have suddenly re-appeared out of nowhere. These seem to be produced recently, as Bruce suggests the ones in stock at the keyboardcompany were produced in 2007. Before this, the last time we had heard of the clicky Cherry White switches was at least over two decades ago.
This morning I got a shipment of the "new" Cherry white switches, so here are a few comparison shots to the old whites. Quite different. They truly deserve the name white now.
* Not pictured: MX White/Clear Clicky "TYPE B" 1989 - looks identical to the other clicky clear one
So there you have it. Besides the generic Cherry switch changes (such as the smaller logo on the top part of the switch), te new white switches are proper white, while the old ones are transparent. The slider construction is a bit different. The spring is identical to the ancient A type clicky switch. Both the vintage 1987 one and the new 2012 one feel identical to me.
This leaves us with the following:
* Clear/White Clicky Type-A: 80cN, clear stem, black click-slider - 1987-?
* Clear/White Clicky Type-B: 50cN(?), clear stem, clear-slider, feels identical to modern mx blue - 1989-?
* Clear/White Non-Clicky: 55cN, clear stem - 1989-2012
* Solid White Clicky: 80cN, white stem, black-slider - 2007-2012+?
And you thought ALPS was complicated. Cherry is just getting started.
I will probably take better pictures on the weekend.
This morning I got a shipment of the "new" Cherry white switches, so here are a few comparison shots to the old whites. Quite different. They truly deserve the name white now.
* Not pictured: MX White/Clear Clicky "TYPE B" 1989 - looks identical to the other clicky clear one
So there you have it. Besides the generic Cherry switch changes (such as the smaller logo on the top part of the switch), te new white switches are proper white, while the old ones are transparent. The slider construction is a bit different. The spring is identical to the ancient A type clicky switch. Both the vintage 1987 one and the new 2012 one feel identical to me.
This leaves us with the following:
* Clear/White Clicky Type-A: 80cN, clear stem, black click-slider - 1987-?
* Clear/White Clicky Type-B: 50cN(?), clear stem, clear-slider, feels identical to modern mx blue - 1989-?
* Clear/White Non-Clicky: 55cN, clear stem - 1989-2012
* Solid White Clicky: 80cN, white stem, black-slider - 2007-2012+?
And you thought ALPS was complicated. Cherry is just getting started.
I will probably take better pictures on the weekend.
- Mrinterface
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: UHK
- Main mouse: G203
- Favorite switch: Monterey blues
- DT Pro Member: 0012
Note :
These new cherry whites will also be available in the two switch try bags and the cherry switch numpad tester. My order at conrad.nl came through
Regards.
These new cherry whites will also be available in the two switch try bags and the cherry switch numpad tester. My order at conrad.nl came through
Regards.
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- Location: Belgium, land of Liberty Wafles and Freedom Fries
- Main keyboard: G80-3K with Clears
- Favorite switch: Capacitative BS
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Where did you get the numbers from? The 2012 spring seems to have 1-2 coils more than the type-A spring, hence I'd guess it would slightly lighter.sixty wrote:
So there you have it. Besides the generic Cherry switch changes (such as the smaller logo on the top part of the switch), te new white switches are proper white, while the old ones are transparent. The slider construction is a bit different. The spring is identical to the ancient A type clicky switch. Both the vintage 1987 one and the new 2012 one feel identical to me.
This leaves us with the following:
* Clear/White Clicky Type-A: 80cN, clear stem, black click-slider - 1987-?
* Clear/White Clicky Type-B: 50cN(?), clear stem, clear-slider, feels identical to modern mx blue - 1989-?
* Clear/White Non-Clicky: 55cN, clear stem - 1989-2012
* Solid White Clicky: 80cN, white stem, black-slider - 2007-2012+?
And you thought ALPS was complicated. Cherry is just getting started.
I will probably take better pictures on the weekend.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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I updated the Wiki with this information. Sixty: Can I upload the pictures, or will you?
- yab8433408
- Location: 中国 湖北 Hubei China
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我很想得到一颗这样的轴体 不知道在那可以得到他 如果谁可以帮助我 我会非常感谢他的
- attarian
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- Favorite switch: Pink :p
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阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?
- yab8433408
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这是白化青轴 不是一般的白轴 如果有 请给我连接attarian wrote:阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?
- attarian
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- Favorite switch: Pink :p
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哦、我晚点查下有没有。
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
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albino green?yab8433408 wrote:这是白化青轴 不是一般的白轴 如果有 请给我连接attarian wrote:阿里巴巴网不是有的吗?
@yab8433408
I try to organise a group buy for them at similar prices as the other switches (around 0.5 EUR or cheaper depending on quantity).
我尝试举办类似的价格其他交换机为他们的团购
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
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LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.
- Icarium
- Location: Germany
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Yeah, I know but cherry switches are available with both, right?7bit wrote:LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Diodes in the switch need a more complex and more cramped PCB design. As the Phantom has so many extra holes in the PCB, I think the didodes were chosen to be placed outside of the switch. This is why switches with Diodes would be kinda useless.Icarium wrote:Yeah, I know but cherry switches are available with both, right?7bit wrote:LEDs: can be ordered separately from a lot of suppliers for cheap.Icarium wrote:Why are we not having group buys for cherry switches with leds/diodes?
Are these so much more expensive?
Diodes: are soldered to the PCB and are available in the same group buy.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
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I love how the Cherry fanboys are wetting themselves over this switch. Looking at the activation force, I knew it all along. They are secret Alps/buckling spring admirers.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
webwit wrote:I love how the Cherry fanboys are wetting themselves over this switch. Looking at the activation force, I knew it all along. They are secret Alps/buckling spring admirers.
At least I like ALPS, so if they feel like clicky ALPS, I might like the albino greens as well.
- attarian
- Location: China: Tianjin / France: marseille (I'm french)
- Favorite switch: Pink :p
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0.5 USD / switch is a little bit high if it's the price you're buying them at. should be around 0.15usd + shipping . At leats that's the price we buy them at most of the time. 0.5 would be the price we sell them in order to get back on our feet ( because there is a minimum order quantity to reach)
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
attarian wrote:0.5 USD / switch is a little bit high if it's the price you're buying them at. should be around 0.15usd + shipping . At leats that's the price we buy them at most of the time. 0.5 would be the price we sell them in order to get back on our feet ( because there is a minimum order quantity to reach)
Do you've got a link?
- attarian
- Location: China: Tianjin / France: marseille (I'm french)
- Favorite switch: Pink :p
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I'm not talking about Mx-Clear. I'm talking in general about Mx-red, blue, etc..
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I pay 0.38 EUR shipped to me, which is around $0.5.attarian wrote:I'm not talking about Mx-Clear. I'm talking in general about Mx-red, blue, etc..
If you have a cheaper source, let me know it!!!