If the Corsair purchase is <12 days try to return it: no offense but interest in Razer/Corsair is low over heretref127 wrote:I'd like a price check on:
Unicomp ultra classic. Good condition(no shine), ISO swedish/finnish layout
Corsair strafe RGB. bought two weeks ago and lightly tested. ISO nordic layout
Thanks in advance for any help!
Price Check: How much is my _____ worth?
- Phenix
- -p
- Location: Germany, Cologne
- Main keyboard: F122, soarer´d|Novatouch-s
- Main mouse: Roccat Kone Pure|Rollermouse
- Favorite switch: BS F|Topre-s
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- nafsasp
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: FMJ 60
- Main mouse: Logitech Performance MX
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: -
Would a Mid-90s Model M (made in UK) with Cyrillic sublegends be worth anything? I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
- Gnohio
- Location: United States, GA
- Main keyboard: Tada68 w/ 65g Zealios
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: T:Zealios 65g C:Cap. Buckling Spring L:Green Alps
- DT Pro Member: -
I think you typo'd and meant to put Model-FElrick wrote: ↑Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
- Main keyboard: G80-5000HAAUS
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0166
I'm going to have to disagree with thatElrick wrote: ↑Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Vintage MX black switches just won switch of the year.Elrick wrote: ↑Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
Sorry when my F77 keyboard arrives then I shall indeed credit the Model-F series as the NEW world keyboard supremo.
Nothing shall even match it or even possibly surpass it in anyway .
The waiting is excruciating almost like passing a gall stone but hoping it will be worth all the pain and misery endured.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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Quite a few here won't be "amused" with that. Personally I can appreciate them especially when plate mounted. To everyone who's hot for nixies I say try and find Vintage MX black's.
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
That's probably the reason why IBM discontinued them for rubberdomesElrick wrote: ↑Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
while Cherry still produce (and sell!) their switches
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
DustGod wrote: ↑Am I late for the holy war? :3
What war? The undeniable, inescapable truth is plain and simple: while Cherry MX black and Blue Alps compete to be on the top of the world, Model M's buckling springs are heaven, and Model F's are heaven's heaven.
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
Wasn't there something like a rivets issue on those heavenly boards?
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
The TRUTH Sayer .
Yeah, most here on DT can't yet comprehend that the PERFECT switch has already been made and everything that came after the Buckling Spring, is just an attempt to capture the feeling of using an IBM Keyboard.
Even though I am typing on a NorthGate at this very second, I still can't get the Buckling Spring out of my mind or soul. It will always be there, tempting me constantly to input more data using that style of technology.
- Gnohio
- Location: United States, GA
- Main keyboard: Tada68 w/ 65g Zealios
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: T:Zealios 65g C:Cap. Buckling Spring L:Green Alps
- DT Pro Member: -
Only on the Model M. The Model F is flawless.kbdfr wrote: ↑Wasn't there something like a rivets issue on those heavenly boards?
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
NOT with Ellipse's F77 model, he's fixed it permanently.kbdfr wrote: ↑Wasn't there something like a rivets issue on those heavenly boards?
Besides I have a NIB Model-M which I bought off Ellipse and it has no problem rivets which I suspect due to it's age, resides in air conditioned spaces for most of it's life and it still is.
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
So if I understand correctly,
in order to have a functioning Model M you have to either mod/fix it or permanently keep it in an air conditioned space.
That’s an interesting definition of "heaven"
But well, as Blaise Pascal put it some 350 years ago,
in order to have a functioning Model M you have to either mod/fix it or permanently keep it in an air conditioned space.
That’s an interesting definition of "heaven"
But well, as Blaise Pascal put it some 350 years ago,
- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
CHURCH.depletedvespene wrote: ↑ What war? The undeniable, inescapable truth is plain and simple: while Cherry MX black and Blue Alps compete to be on the top of the world, Model M's buckling springs are heaven, and Model F's are heaven's heaven.
I don't know if I've been lucky or what, but of the 6 or 7 Model M I've had, only two had broken rivets. Both worked fine, they only had a weaker tactility. Those two boards were intensely used for 20+ years.kbdfr wrote: ↑So if I understand correctly,
in order to have a functioning Model M you have to either mod/fix it or permanently keep it in an air conditioned space.
That’s an interesting definition of "heaven"
Are we really judging switches based on how much maintenance they need after 20 and more years of daily typing? If so, all and every Alps switch should be in the 'distilled shit' tier.
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
To put it a somewhat less positive way, almost a third (~28.5%) of your Model Ms ended losing their tactility due to faulty technical design.DustGod wrote: ↑[…] I don't know if I've been lucky or what, but of the 6 or 7 Model M I've had, only two had broken rivets. Both worked fine, they only had a weaker tactility. Those two boards were intensely used for 20+ years.
Not really a reason to praise them being "heaven", I would say
You are certainly right. On the other hand, I still am searching where switches were "judged", and "based on" what, in the post that triggered my answer:Are we really judging switches based on how much maintenance they need after 20 and more years of daily typing? If so, all and every Alps switch should be in the 'distilled shit' tier.
Reminds me somehow of Credo quia absurdumElrick wrote: ↑Get with the crowd here on DT Central, Cherry is old news the Model-M is to die for.nafsasp wrote: ↑I mostly collect Cherry stuff so I'm not too familiar with what IBM things are worth.
Far better switch and it just feels better in every way when you use this style of IBM iron. Cherry is stone cold boring because it has NO soul, no life when ever you use it.
Cherry is better suited to boring number cruncher's in the office, that would rather spend time ogling Brook Logan on the Bold and the Beautiful and pretending to have a life of their own.
The Model-M are for those that appreciate the REALITY of inputting data into a Computer and LOVING it .
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
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What is a clean working Apple M0118 ISO with SKCM Salmon worth?
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
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WHAT?, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THIS TYPING.gogusrl wrote: ↑It seems there's a lot of "deaf'ish" single people working from home around here considering the love for BS.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
Sorry to break your illusion here but even married people, still love the authenticity of the Buckling Spring.gogusrl wrote: ↑It seems there's a lot of "deaf'ish" single people working from home around here considering the love for BS.
Those who keep on spruiking Cherry based keyboards, are definitely alone .
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
I'm not in depletedvespene mind, but I interpreted his "Model M's buckling springs are heaven" as "the typing feel of a Model M is heavenly", and I agree (in decent conditions). If we have to incorporate the design in the equation, membrane BS fare a little worse still better than average I think. The plastic rivets are, undoubtedly, a fault on the design of the boards.kbdfr wrote: ↑ To put it a somewhat less positive way, almost a third (~28.5%) of your Model Ms ended losing their tactility due to faulty technical design.
Not really a reason to praise them being "heaven", I would say
I'm not in Elrick mind either, but I think that's because that was bait.kbdfr wrote: ↑ [...] I still am searching where switches were "judged", and "based on" what, in the post that triggered my answer
And now I'm gone wildly off topic
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
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At least just have some style about this kbdfr!