Should I lube my model f stabs?
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- Main keyboard: Model F Labs F77
- Main mouse: mx master 3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
I recently purchased and received a model f labs f77 which I've been using for around a month. I know this is sacrilege, but I'm contemplating lubing the stabs because the only thing I dislike about it is the slight grainy feel before I actuate the enter, shift, caps lock, and tab keys. I've found that this is present at least in model Ms I've tried before, so I assume it's normal in Fs as well, but over time I'm starting to dislike it slightly (although not so much that I'd prefer to use a different keyboard). I don't care about the ping sounds, just the slight graininess which I assume is from stabiliser friction. Has anyone had much success lubing only the stabs?
- ddrfraser1
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Changes weekly
- Main mouse: MX MASTER
- Favorite switch: Lubed 55g BKE Redux Domes
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I’ve never felt this grainy feeling on the stabs. I assume they are thoroughly cleaned. It may be a good idea to just get some new ones from unicomp. I wouldn’t recommend it certainly on an M as any kind of moisture is bad for the membrane. I probably wouldn’t do it on the F either but I’m not sure. What do you mean about the caps lock and tab keys? They don’t have stabilizers
- Bjerrk
- Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-1800 & Models F & M
- Main mouse: Mouse Keys, Trackpoint, Trackball
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Springs+Beamspring, Alps Plate Spring
I actually find the keys to be very well-stabilized and smooth on the new F77. I even just got it out to get a good feel (that came out oddly), and I can't say there's any graininess.
That said, I have previously lubed stabilizers on a (Unicomp) Model M. I found that at took an absolutely tiny amount of grease. Applying it, and then wiping off most of it seemed to have a beneficial effect. But it was fairly good in the first place, to be fair.
That said, I have previously lubed stabilizers on a (Unicomp) Model M. I found that at took an absolutely tiny amount of grease. Applying it, and then wiping off most of it seemed to have a beneficial effect. But it was fairly good in the first place, to be fair.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
What's the preferred grease for stabs, anyways? My HHKB could really use a spot after so much use.
If other keys are feeling a bit off, it's a manufacturing tolerance thing. Try swapping some caps around and see if the feeling changes.
True! Only keys 2 units and larger have stabs. Backspace, Right Shift, Return, Left Shift (if ANSI) and Spacebar on an F77.ddrfraser1 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 09:50What do you mean about the caps lock and tab keys? They don’t have stabilizers
If other keys are feeling a bit off, it's a manufacturing tolerance thing. Try swapping some caps around and see if the feeling changes.
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- Main keyboard: Model F Labs F77
- Main mouse: mx master 3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs
I think this might just be a case where the typing feel is such a tremendous upgrade that I'm starting to notice minor stuff which I didn't notice on just about every other keyboard, despite it being equally or more present. I'm typing away on my other boards for comparison and they have the same grainy feel on the stabilised keys, it's just that I don't notice it so much because they are so mushy.
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
I lube the tabs that hold wires (tiny amount of this https://www.elitekeyboards.com/product- ... ant-w-ptfe and then mostly picked up with a toothpick) but I would not put anything into chimney stabilizers for fear that they would bind due to a suction effect.
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- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Brand New Model F Keyboards
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For some keys that are originally less smooth or bind a bit, I recommend pinching the 2.25U and larger keys about 10-30 times - helps improve smoothness significantly - hold the key stem and stabilizer pole with your thumb and forefinger and squeeze 10-30 times. The pinching and releasing brings the outer key stem "ear" and the stabilizer pole a little closer together - be careful not to pinch too much or the key can break. This quick fix requires no other materials and has worked 100% of the time for me.