Beware of MagicMeatball
- Lin TaobaoAgent
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Hi guys!
First off, you can call me she
I am too tired to write more today, but I can tell you the story tomorrow.
I should have copied the post i wrote.
Anyway, Here are the "before/after" pictures.
Before shipping. (do not mind the date, it is not set on the camera)
Pictures taken by MMB, links given to paypal, and of course copied by me.
Pictures taken at the post office, where I opened the package, with witnesses.
Keycaps gone, cable cut, the electric thing where you stick in the cable gone, and there were no screws holding it together, should i say "luckily", since it sounded like a rattle when i shook the package.
I will be happy to answer all questions tomorrow!
First off, you can call me she
I am too tired to write more today, but I can tell you the story tomorrow.
I should have copied the post i wrote.
Anyway, Here are the "before/after" pictures.
Before shipping. (do not mind the date, it is not set on the camera)
Pictures taken by MMB, links given to paypal, and of course copied by me.
Pictures taken at the post office, where I opened the package, with witnesses.
Keycaps gone, cable cut, the electric thing where you stick in the cable gone, and there were no screws holding it together, should i say "luckily", since it sounded like a rattle when i shook the package.
I will be happy to answer all questions tomorrow!
- thegunner100
- Location: NYC, USA
- Main keyboard: "Sakura" Realforce 87u 55g
- Main mouse: Logitech G5(v2)
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g
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- dirge
- Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, United Kingdom.
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You can't really fault us when the other side deletes all responses to the subject.Brodawg wrote:Sounds like you guys are only listening to one side of the story.
So 'something' happened between two forum members. So either:
1) Lin forged photo's accepting a keyboard at a post office.
2) Someone in between Lin and MMB removed the keycaps but didn't keep the whole board and allowed it to still get to Lin.
3) MMB kept the caps and said he didn't.
2 feels a little far fetched,.. keycap ninjas posing as post office workers?
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Pictures show the post office. So either the mailman opened the package, took the keycaps, cut the cable, and closed the package again, or Lin received it, and shipped the mutated board to herself for some nice pictures at the post office, as some kind of revenge, or MagicMeatball did ship the keyboard like that and is lying to everybody about it. If you want me to speculate, looks to me like the buyer expected a perfect, cleaned keyboard instead of a dirty vintage one, and when he found out after inspection, just tossed it in a package in some kind of rage. I do think a proxy service has some kind of responsibility of quality towards buyers when it concerns vintage, otherwise they are just taking money and if it's crap, the buyer cannot do anything about it. For example, I once bought something from Yahoo Japan with a shopping service, and received clearly damaged goods not as pictured, and the proxy just shipped and took commission. But whether expectations were realistic or not in this case, MagicMeatball should have shipped back the keyboard as it was, if he was not happy. Maybe there was some argument about who would pay the return fee, and the caps were taken? This is always a difficult issue.
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- Location: PL
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Favorite switch: Topre/MX Brown
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Yeah right, Lin bringing up the case to lie, risking her business credibility.Brodawg wrote:Sounds like you guys are only listening to one side of the story.
We can and will judge this, just because it has been brought to the public.
Get some common sense.
What's the other side of the story? "I DID NOT" - phew.
So either keycaps hunting ninjas are real or the guy is full of shit.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech
- Favorite switch: BUCKLING SPRING DAWG!
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You're pretty quick to judge and make big issues out of something that might be a misunderstanding. You don't know the facts, only what you have been presented. Why not let the two of them sort it out between each other instead of making a huge deal over such a small thing.hq1ify wrote:Yeah right, Lin bringing up the case to lie, risking her business credibility.Brodawg wrote:Sounds like you guys are only listening to one side of the story.
We can and will judge this, just because it has been brought to the public.
Get some common sense.
What's the other side of the story? "I DID NOT" - phew.
So either keycaps hunting ninjas are real or the guy is full of shit.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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But we have been presented as a fact that Meatball denied it.
Are you calling Lin a liar? You're pretty quick to judge her a liar. Why don't you let us make up your minds, instead of making a huge deal over our opinions (yes I know this argument is lame, which is the point).
Are you calling Lin a liar? You're pretty quick to judge her a liar. Why don't you let us make up your minds, instead of making a huge deal over our opinions (yes I know this argument is lame, which is the point).
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- Location: Hungary
- Main keyboard: Filco M2
- Main mouse: Razer abyssus
- Favorite switch: Modded Vintage Cherry MX blacks
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Two of them???? You made the impression that you are MMB.Brodawg wrote:Why not let the two of them sort it out between each other instead of making a huge deal over such a small thing.
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- Location: Hungary
- Main keyboard: Filco M2
- Main mouse: Razer abyssus
- Favorite switch: Modded Vintage Cherry MX blacks
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I have heard stories like that many times about the Hungarian post office. It could be possible that Chinese post office workers steal as well.dirge wrote:You can't really fault us when the other side deletes all responses to the subject.Brodawg wrote:Sounds like you guys are only listening to one side of the story.
So 'something' happened between two forum members. So either:
1) Lin forged photo's accepting a keyboard at a post office.
2) Someone in between Lin and MMB removed the keycaps but didn't keep the whole board and allowed it to still get to Lin.
3) MMB kept the caps and said he didn't.
2 feels a little far fetched,.. keycap ninjas posing as post office workers?
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech
- Favorite switch: BUCKLING SPRING DAWG!
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Nobody is manipulating anything. Stating people should hear both sides of a story isn't manipulation. You should get your terminology correct before accusing someone.webwit wrote:MagicMeatball's ip and Brodawg's ip almost match and resolve to the same isp and metro and area code. In other words, caught pants down trying to manipulate this topic.
- thegunner100
- Location: NYC, USA
- Main keyboard: "Sakura" Realforce 87u 55g
- Main mouse: Logitech G5(v2)
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g
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Mmm... and the plot thickens! Thank you, Webwit, for allowing this discussion to go on instead of being censored like back at GH.
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Last edited by cactux on 24 Aug 2012, 00:55, edited 1 time in total.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Them? You are MM. That is manipulation with a sockpuppet.Why not let the two of them sort it out
- thegunner100
- Location: NYC, USA
- Main keyboard: "Sakura" Realforce 87u 55g
- Main mouse: Logitech G5(v2)
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g
- DT Pro Member: -
Most geekhackers don't buy vintage keyboards to use them either.cactux wrote:Everybody knows that most of the guys at GH are interested on the keycaps.
That story that either the mail man or someone else in China took the keycaps does not fly
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech
- Favorite switch: BUCKLING SPRING DAWG!
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Typical DTard trolling.thegunner100 wrote:Most geekhackers don't buy vintage keyboards to use them either.cactux wrote:Everybody knows that most of the guys at GH are interested on the keycaps.
That story that either the mail man or someone else in China took the keycaps does not fly
- thegunner100
- Location: NYC, USA
- Main keyboard: "Sakura" Realforce 87u 55g
- Main mouse: Logitech G5(v2)
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g
- DT Pro Member: -
Quick to go on personal attacks, eh?Brodawg wrote:Typical DTard trolling.thegunner100 wrote:Most geekhackers don't buy vintage keyboards to use them either.cactux wrote:Everybody knows that most of the guys at GH are interested on the keycaps.
That story that either the mail man or someone else in China took the keycaps does not fly
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
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Where are the counter arguments? You could have argued she is just a commercial dealer or something and that quality was below par etc. Instead you employ a sockpuppet and start calling people "dtards". If she was lying, I would have defended my ass off.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech
- Favorite switch: BUCKLING SPRING DAWG!
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They were stated in the forum on GH by both side before it was decided to take it all down. I guess you missed that part.webwit wrote:Where are the counter arguments? You could have argued she is just a commercial dealer or something and that quality was below par etc. Instead you employ a sockpuppet and start calling people "dtards". If she was lying, I would have defended my ass off.
There's no difference in saying 'DTards' and generalizing the masses at GH as people who 'only buy keyboards for keycaps' or 'don't buy vintage keyboards to use them'. I find this hilarious, and typical of what I have seen when a flame topic begins. Everyone is quick to jump into the angry mob, yet nobody has the sense to listen to reason.
- litster
- Location: Washington State, USA
- Main keyboard: KMAC2, The Cheat
- Favorite switch: Brown, Topre, Red, BS
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I was about to say, most of the time when I buy used (non-NIB) Cherry keyboards, I buy them for their keycaps. It is interesting that someone would go through all the trouble to buy a used Cherry keyboard on taobao in China using an agent, and didn't have the caps pulled and have just the caps shipped. That would have been a lot cheaper to ship. That's what I would do anyway. But that's just me.
BTW, what kind of Cherry keyboard is that? Are those dye sub or DS Ctrl and Alt keycaps? If I were to buy that keyboard, I would only be buying it for the Ctrl and Alt caps, not the old dirty keyboard. Was the price of the keyboard mentioned anywhere?
BTW, what kind of Cherry keyboard is that? Are those dye sub or DS Ctrl and Alt keycaps? If I were to buy that keyboard, I would only be buying it for the Ctrl and Alt caps, not the old dirty keyboard. Was the price of the keyboard mentioned anywhere?
- litster
- Location: Washington State, USA
- Main keyboard: KMAC2, The Cheat
- Favorite switch: Brown, Topre, Red, BS
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Litster wants to know if Brodawg is MagicMeatball.
Litster asks Brodawg, do you dispute webwit's claim that you are MagicMeatball? It is kind of weird to be chatting with someone in 3rd person voice.
Litster asks Brodawg, do you dispute webwit's claim that you are MagicMeatball? It is kind of weird to be chatting with someone in 3rd person voice.
- JesuswasaZombie
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I resent that comment, talk about over-generalizing. (typed on an SSK)thegunner100 wrote:Most geekhackers don't buy vintage keyboards to use them either.cactux wrote:Everybody knows that most of the guys at GH are interested on the keycaps.
That story that either the mail man or someone else in China took the keycaps does not fly