Best keyswitch
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
002's principle of only voting for what you have used yourself is a very sane one, I'm adhering to it, too, and probably many voters do. Which makes it hard for blue Alps or beamsprings.
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- Khers
- ⧓
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: LZ CLSh
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Ergo
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs | Topre | Nixdorf Black
- DT Pro Member: 0087
It is a very sane principle. If you haven't tried a switch, what would you be basing your opinion on? Others thoughts on that switch?
Fortunately for me, I've tried and own all the switches represented in this final round bar one: zealios. I guess you can guess at least one of the switches I didn't vote for.
Fortunately for me, I've tried and own all the switches represented in this final round bar one: zealios. I guess you can guess at least one of the switches I didn't vote for.

- Wodan
- ISO Advocate
- Location: ISO-DE
- Main keyboard: Intense Rotation!!!
- Main mouse: Logitech G903
- Favorite switch: ALL OF THEM
- DT Pro Member: -
I'm having a hard time voting for the abstract idea of a switch. No doubt a beamspring switch gives you the most pleasurable 4mm of your life ... but it is a beast of a switch that wouldn't fit into ANY keyboard that I use frequently. It's great fun to type on a beamer for a couple of days but you quickly realize why other switches made the race.
Gotta go with Topre this year. They actually made some impressive progress finally releasing MX compatible keyboards under their own brand name and checking the "RGB backlight" box ...
Gotta go with Topre this year. They actually made some impressive progress finally releasing MX compatible keyboards under their own brand name and checking the "RGB backlight" box ...
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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I've never tried Zealios...looking at the current results possibly I should. I'm still perplexed that no Alps SKCM made it into the final round.
- Wodan
- ISO Advocate
- Location: ISO-DE
- Main keyboard: Intense Rotation!!!
- Main mouse: Logitech G903
- Favorite switch: ALL OF THEM
- DT Pro Member: -
Well if you add Aristotle stems (0.65$ each) to your Zealios (1.00$ each) you basically get SKCM Blues with MX stems:
https://zealpc.net/collections/switches ... -aristotle

https://zealpc.net/collections/switches ... -aristotle

- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
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I wouldn't know but I don't believe you...since I know that you do own real SKCM blues you might want to be careful with jokes like that.Wodan wrote: Well if you add Aristotle stems (0.65$ each) to your Zealios (1.00$ each) you basically get SKCM Blues with MX stems:
https://zealpc.net/collections/switches ... -aristotle

- scottc
- ☃
- Location: Remote locations in Europe
- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
- DT Pro Member: -
I find zealios soooo overhyped. I've been using them in a Whitefox for a build I did for a friend and am not that impressed at all. Honestly it could be that the hype killed it for me, but I wasn't exactly blown away either. All in all, I found them to be a fairly average tactile switch.
I've had a jar of desoldered Aristotles burning a hole in my shelves for months. Tried putting them in an MX chassis and didn't like the result. Maybe the Zealio chassis is filled with magic goodness that will make the stem spring to life.
As an aside, couldn't you just use regular Gateron housings instead of Zealio housings when doing that mod? They're something like 8x cheaper (at least they were in the initial GB phase).
I've had a jar of desoldered Aristotles burning a hole in my shelves for months. Tried putting them in an MX chassis and didn't like the result. Maybe the Zealio chassis is filled with magic goodness that will make the stem spring to life.
As an aside, couldn't you just use regular Gateron housings instead of Zealio housings when doing that mod? They're something like 8x cheaper (at least they were in the initial GB phase).
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
I voted for MX Clears, because... Clears are just so well-loved by everyone. Especially me! Such a classic option. Wouldn't feel right to vote for Topre and Beamspring because I've only recently tried them.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
- Khers
- ⧓
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: LZ CLSh
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Ergo
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs | Topre | Nixdorf Black
- DT Pro Member: 0087
I for one find clears to be rather appalling. They get better after a spring swap but there are three switches in this round that I count as being in a completely different ball park.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
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- Khers
- ⧓
- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: LZ CLSh
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Ergo
- Favorite switch: Buckling Springs | Topre | Nixdorf Black
- DT Pro Member: 0087
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
No Khers, exotic as in not very practical on a day to day basis:

Spoiler:

- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
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Glad to see you're enjoying yourself Tom.
Nothing wrong with PollandAkuma's post anyway.

- E TwentyNine
- Main keyboard: AT Model F w/ Tenkeyless mod
- Main mouse: Logitech M310
- Favorite switch: Beam spring
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- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
At the minimum there should be a distinction made between "conventional modern" switches and "non-standard and vintage" switches. Unfortunately, date/time can't be used as a delimiter because there was quite a bit of overlap.
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
I wish Santa could fill my stocking with blue Alps [CRYING FACE]on the other hand I really like topre...
Have another else noticed that there are no linear switches to vote for? #LinearEquality
Have another else noticed that there are no linear switches to vote for? #LinearEquality
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
- scottc
- ☃
- Location: Remote locations in Europe
- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
- DT Pro Member: -
I think you might be alone in your love for stock MX clears... or maybe you and the people who voted it into the last round 

- vivalarevolución
- formerly prdlm2009
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Beam spring
- Main mouse: Kangaroo
- Favorite switch: beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0097
I think the problem with Blue Alps is that a lot of people don't have a chance to try them. But when it comes to any clicky switch in the Cherry and Alps family, they are the best I have tried.
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -